Received: from makus.postgresql.org (makus.postgresql.org [98.129.198.125]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA8E90656D for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 13:12:31 -0400 (AST) Received: from outmail148108.authsmtp.net ([62.13.148.108]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RRoSr-0001wb-9W for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:12:30 +0000 Received: from mail-c187.authsmtp.com (mail-c187.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.33]) by punt5.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Kp) with ESMTP id pAJHCGol095364 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:12:16 GMT Received: from mail-gx0-f174.google.com (mail-gx0-f174.google.com [209.85.161.174]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id pAJHCDKT094923 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:12:14 GMT Received: by ggnr5 with SMTP id r5so1124381ggn.19 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:12:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.72.167 with SMTP id t27mr11290008yhd.127.1321722733079; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:12:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.67.104 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:12:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:12:12 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PostgreSQL website redesign From: Simon Riggs To: Thom Brown Cc: "w^3" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Server-Quench: a0396a78-12d1-11e1-ab46-001185d377ca X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCdxZQATClZOTQEd DAteCiN5VAwpPBRK HVkIKg5MOFUSTAAU LVlFBkJUK0ETX1xC QjoVBBYDHlx4Rh0q LRVTbQRccktJVQRo WklNDFBSHRtgBAIA AB8AUx52aABOf2Fx KwYTJAgoKD8edU95 S0xXW2kHY2cuOWAc WUYJcAtJcQEefwJE awV+SSJfZWMaZnph Rl9uM2tuYj5WPh5Y EEk+NV0JWEJOASEj clg6Gi4zElcIfBwX ZwMrIEUdAEtZKEg+ PEAgVlRw X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633235383639.1000:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Archive-Number: 201111/23 X-Sequence-Number: 20299 On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Thom Brown wrote: > As you will no doubt be aware, the PostgreSQL website is overdue for a > fresh lick of paint, so we are planning to give it a new look in the > near future. It's not clear to me that redesigning the website will give us anything at all, but it will definitely drain time and focus away from things like writing patches or working out clear and workable designs for new features. The existing design works just fine in every way, so "we" are not unhappy. In fact the existing site is fairly well tuned with many people's feedback and pixel level arguments now done and dusted. We do need some marketing, but redesigning websites without purpose is not marketing. Please state the reasons you think a redesign is worth the effort. And how that is a priority over spending the same time and money on actual marketing, i.e. external contacts, whitepapers, press and such like. I grant that is likely more fun to redesign a website but that doesn't make it worthwhile. --=20 =A0Simon Riggs=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 http:/= /www.2ndQuadrant.com/ =A0PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services