Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TuqOA-0003ox-Fr for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:12:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TuqOA-0006AQ-0s for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:12:10 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([87.238.57.229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TuqO9-0006AL-J1 for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:12:09 +0000 Received: from outmail148110.authsmtp.com ([62.13.148.110]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TuqO7-0002Cn-8x for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:12:09 +0000 Received: from mail-c233.authsmtp.com (mail-c233.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.233]) by punt7.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Kp) with ESMTP id r0EKC6GI020262 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:12:06 GMT Received: from mail-vb0-f50.google.com (mail-vb0-f50.google.com [209.85.212.50]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id r0EKC4ch073214 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:12:05 GMT Received: by mail-vb0-f50.google.com with SMTP id ft2so3978473vbb.9 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:12:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.153.201 with SMTP id l9mr102277506vcw.33.1358194324409; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:12:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.2.129 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:12:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50F45B4E.5070406@agliodbs.com> References: <50F44755.20208@agliodbs.com> <50F45B4E.5070406@agliodbs.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:12:04 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sponsorship Page Country From: Simon Riggs To: Josh Berkus Cc: pgsql-www@postgresql.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Server-Quench: aaa396f0-5e86-11e2-a49c-0025907707a1 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCdxZQATClZOTQEd DAteCiNZVAwpPBRK HVkIKg5MOFUSTAAU LVlFBkJUK0ETX1xC QjoVBBYDHlx1Rhkk NRVTbQReckhOVQRo WkhMDFBSHRtgBAID BxwAVxltcg1BZ38+ J0YXJQNfDxx6ckV/ Q0oaE28EZSkxOTEc WUYOdx5RJQtMYx5E P1JiBXcEMngHZnhl TldsYGhuNGxJEikH CjIVIkkLRQMUASEJ DysaGjM0GlceRyQr ZyQvJVNUN0EMNFko IDMA X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633235383639.1021:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 209.85.212.50/587 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-www Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org On 14 January 2013 19:23, Josh Berkus wrote: > >> So in order to show we have international support, we list only a few >> of the countries that we operate in? Huh. > > Sarcasm ill becomes you. I'm pointing out that your idea is flawed by illustrating it has the opposite effect to the one intended. Describing that as sarcasm isn't accurate, plus it's evading the point. >>> The Sponsors page is also quite clear that only the HQ country of each >>> company is listed. Nobody thinks that Red Hat or Google is only in the >>> USA; your worry that people will think that 2Q is UK-only on that basis >>> is quite unfounded. >> >> I guess if it's not there for actual information purposes, then it >> would be OK to remove it? > > I would be opposed to removing it. The entire sponsors page is not > there for informational purposes: it is promotional, to show people the > breadth of corporate support which the PostgreSQL project has. Listing > the primary host countries of the various companies contributes to this, > by showing that the PostgreSQL project is not a single-country project > (as some OSS projects are). > > I agree that bringing back the PostgreSQL World Map would accomplish the > same purpose, and if someone wants to code that up, pgsql-www is there > on Git for you to get started. In the meantime, I don't agree that > anyone has demonstrated any problem with listing the sponsor's home > countries, and I feel they serve an advocacy purpose. The World Map would be fine, if you're allowed multiple pins on it. Presumably someone has checked with all of those companies to see where they are actually officially headquartered? -- Simon Riggs http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services -- Sent via pgsql-www mailing list (pgsql-www@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-www