Received: from makus.postgresql.org (makus.postgresql.org [98.129.198.125]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C42816FA501 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 08:42:17 -0300 (ADT) Received: from outmail149084.authsmtp.net ([62.13.149.84]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SoCM4-0007u5-5J for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 11:42:17 +0000 Received: from mail-c194.authsmtp.com (mail-c194.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.121]) by punt8.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Kp) with ESMTP id q69Bg2H1091291 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 12:42:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gh0-f174.google.com (mail-gh0-f174.google.com [209.85.160.174]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q69Bfo0k041853 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 12:41:51 +0100 (BST) Received: by ghrr11 with SMTP id r11so9946672ghr.19 for ; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 04:41:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.28.101 with SMTP id a5mr41019869oeh.69.1341834110205; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 04:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.115.69 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 04:41:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1341833486.9579.8.camel@lenovo01-laptop03.gunduz.org> References: <1341692590.1122.1.camel@lenovo01-laptop03.gunduz.org> <2476F91B-A1B2-45DA-96EB-8F33C79A0E05@openscg.com> <1341781012.3451.0.camel@lenovo01-laptop03.gunduz.org> <1341833486.9579.8.camel@lenovo01-laptop03.gunduz.org> Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 12:41:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Linux Downloads page change From: Simon Riggs To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Devrim_G=DCND=DCZ?= Cc: Dave Page , Magnus Hagander , Scott Mead , "pgsql-www@postgresql.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Server-Quench: 13285c09-c9bb-11e1-80b9-0022640b883e X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCdxZQATClZOTQEd DAteCiN5VAwpPBRK HVkIKg5MOFUSTAAU LVlFBkJUK0ETX1xC QjoVBBYDHl14Rhkw NxVTbQRfcktMVQFr Wk1IDFBSHRtgBAIA AB4AUx52aABOf2Fx KwdkVwINA0QhdUJ8 SktXW2sDY2UuaWMd WEULdwpJIwoYLAJE awV+SXsNM2waZnpi RVFvZzphbW5SPh5Y EEk+NV0JWEJOASEj clgmHDMyDQUpQDo1 KxsvJkVUBE8ePw05 MVInVl9w X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633235383639.1015:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 209.85.160.174/587 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Archive-Number: 201207/53 X-Sequence-Number: 20802 On 9 July 2012 12:31, Devrim G=DCND=DCZ wrote: > > Hi Simon, > > On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 12:25 +0100, Simon Riggs wrote: > >> I am discussing the relationship of SRPMs and RPMs, which is a valid >> point on this thread given the point that the RPMs and SRPMs have been >> mismatched for some time and that the current process calls for manual >> rather than automatic synchronisation. > > Which SRPMs are you talking about? Community SRPMs? If so, they have > been always available on the website. If you are talking about OpenSCG > RPMs, that is a different thing. My words were a little unclear all round, please accept my apologies. IMHO we should only list binaries on the postgresql.org website if they are derived from build information that is owned by the PGDG, or at very least publicly available at the time of the build and likely to remain so afterwards. That process should be automatic as far as possible, to minimise error, since the number of users of those binaries is now very large. Unverifiable binaries are a quality and security risk to the project. Companies are welcome to provide value-added binaries to their customers if they choose to do so but that should be a private matter. --=20 Simon Riggs http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services