Received: from makus.postgresql.org (makus.postgresql.org [98.129.198.125]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7714BC2FBC6 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 06:12:32 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail-lb0-f174.google.com ([209.85.217.174]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SYZWY-0007LL-Lh for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Sun, 27 May 2012 09:12:31 +0000 Received: by lbbgm6 with SMTP id gm6so1400860lbb.19 for ; Sun, 27 May 2012 02:12:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=LigiP91vX6z3X6rmAAmttuks+n6zYT50I8bH4O8CHxk=; b=IwRHmAzC06TIzCKmCLZzfebKGLDrud7biiskhM73myXGtejSzb9wF5g96qDY9Oi5nl akp2IAFWLvap1ks+BGB2CGD7gA6vW6vSfb5zU5MjQBBpqDLBMJeQan53Zi25ouOcOqzm ciD+Ik2dhdhJeJJaXfrMtalI/lr063jAMS57b5LYBXTxYQ4A/2Vo6GjbSIthHi65TL3s coykUgfODahwiRTI8onCXQTfWTBLQl62PUa84w0EMEOEbXZXlgkGaBerldL6hD/cbFLR qBu8KiLRfQe86r7Uh7pbhZcbHt1h90CmPPOfULWYZgJT9zPyHZ6US2jCIify/ud19ei0 cLqA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.125.116 with SMTP id mp20mr4513801lab.19.1338109937181; Sun, 27 May 2012 02:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.21.234 with HTTP; Sun, 27 May 2012 02:12:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1526285636.78745.1337369598304.JavaMail.root@mail-1.01.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 11:12:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Advantages page out of date From: Magnus Hagander To: Josh Kupershmidt Cc: Joshua Berkus , "w^3" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0435be6e79e3c704c100ffc5 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnD4O84s4wg48bhviN+isT2eDGmT2A8YzYnAsrkRom48OEEkSB3fg5tiL8PKA6+N4DAo9oM X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Archive-Number: 201205/57 X-Sequence-Number: 20681 --f46d0435be6e79e3c704c100ffc5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Saturday, May 19, 2012, Josh Kupershmidt wrote: > On 5/18/12, Joshua Berkus > wrote: > > No question. It's not remotely the only page which is horribly out of > date, > > either. > > > > Think you could write up replacement text for the page? > > Sure. A quick fix (patch: advantages_quickfix.diff) would be to remove > just that line, and leave Hot stand-by covered by the entry for > 'Replication'. > > I think a better solution (patch: advantages_link_matrix.diff) would > be to simply link the user to the Feature Matrix, instead of trying to > summarize some arbitrary subset of those features under Technical > Features. > I think this is definitely the best idea for now, so I've applied this version of the patch. If we did want to keep something like the Technical Features section > around, I think its scope should be narrowed down to features which > are rare, nonexistent, or limited in our competitors. Support for > Unicode, sub-selects, views, etc. may have been cutting-edge features > back when that page was written, but is not such a draw these days. > Things like SP-GiST, KNN, per-transaction durability control, SSI, > SE-Postgres, transactional DDL, JSON and Range types, etc. along with > a summary of why they're better than our competitor implementations > would make for an interesting read IMO. But this kind of prose seems > like it'd be better suited for the wiki anyway... there's not already > a page like that, other than the comparisons against MySQL, is there? > I'd be happy to help start a page like that. Yeah, I think that might be better suited on the wiki. At least, that's a good place to start. Perhaps a future development could be a version of the feature matrix that instead of having postgresql versions on the "x axis", it would instead have typical competitors. Could be combined with the rumored feature I was once working on that would let you dynamically pick which columns would show up in the feature matrix, to customize your own comparisons between the versions you are actually interested in :) -- Magnus Hagander Me: http://www.hagander.net/ Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/ --f46d0435be6e79e3c704c100ffc5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Saturday, May 19, 2012, Josh Kupershmidt wrote:
On 5/18/12, Joshua Berkus <josh@agliodbs.c= om> wrote:
> No question. =A0It's not remotely the only page which is horribly = out of date,
> either.
>
> Think you could write up replacement text for the page?

Sure. A quick fix (patch: advantages_quickfix.diff) would be to remove
just that line, and leave Hot stand-by covered by the entry for
'Replication'.

I think a better solution (patch: advantages_link_matrix.diff) would
be to simply link the user to the Feature Matrix, instead of trying to
summarize some arbitrary subset of those features under Technical
Features.

I think this is definitely th= e best idea for now, so I've applied this version of the patch.
=A0

If we did want to keep something like the Technical Features section
around, I think its scope should be narrowed down to features which
are rare, nonexistent, or limited in our competitors. Support for
Unicode, sub-selects, views, etc. may have been cutting-edge features
back when that page was written, but is not such a draw these days.
Things like SP-GiST, KNN, per-transaction durability control, SSI,
SE-Postgres, transactional DDL, JSON and Range types, etc. along with
a summary of why they're better than our competitor implementations
would make for an interesting read IMO. But this kind of prose seems
like it'd be better suited for the wiki anyway... there's not alrea= dy
a page like that, other than the comparisons against MySQL, is there?
I'd be happy to help start a page like that.

Yeah, I think that might be better suited on the wiki. At least, that= 's a good place to start.

Perhaps a future dev= elopment could be a version of the feature matrix that instead of having po= stgresql versions on the "x axis", it would instead have typical = competitors.

Could be combined with the rumored feature I was once w= orking on that would let you dynamically pick which columns would show up i= n the feature matrix, to customize your own comparisons between the version= s you are actually interested in :)




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=A0Magnus Hagander
=A0Me: <= a href=3D"http://www.hagander.net/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.hagander.n= et/
=A0Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/
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