Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1URps3-0005DI-LW for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 20:19:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1URps3-0005rP-4b for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 20:19:23 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:7903:4::125]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1URps2-0005qZ-4o for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 20:19:22 +0000 Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com ([74.125.82.51]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1URprz-0001F4-BI for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 20:19:21 +0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id b12so5160360wgh.30 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:19:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=13t0VwgD8UM21LG1lxJrB493DkFs50JiIKMP4nEy3Ng=; b=FXDMMxP/ExJY4GrgxgW6AifdikgfB7cKQw/4EfwioP8QXYDUetP8rCnW9oOFqFLQ6P A8vj5m2JxrYvZ0xxidHXrdrO5MWGZt2S+QPc12oIETvF7WquH8O3488EO/gFkLrCjLtJ ceWqnuDby7aLCCvr+AUsIamPL5wK+pX+/NC6DYjn3t8Hj8G1JQdygPENADMXqltTcm9S RDYr+zeaT2ZJ7kft1IDrKKCD/SUtCEeyqmSToZKsWKyt/Xon3qN4JVmi+8/7UAffo60C 5dUstkb//CSTGVytVPSjb9kQf8mDSRgWrAg2OaQ2YqTHFN6iEWBF+qVDn10ZP4aWKEc4 sSUQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.72.165 with SMTP id e5mr14534544wiv.7.1366057157774; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:19:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.16.69 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:19:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130415201046.GD8626@eldon.alvh.no-ip.org> References: <516C4833.2050805@dalibo.info> <516C5A96.4020006@agliodbs.com> <20130415195918.GA4602@momjian.us> <20130415201046.GD8626@eldon.alvh.no-ip.org> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 22:19:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stalled news about ora2pg 11 on pg.org From: Magnus Hagander To: Alvaro Herrera Cc: Bruce Momjian , Josh Berkus , PostgreSQL WWW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl3QHimGTXwF0x32feqeeBFlySIWfV7kb3wm3mEfKfDDaIeUf7EY4CN6i7ogs4RywJcmZvg X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-www Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Magnus Hagander wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: >> > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 12:52:54PM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote: >> >> >> >> > 2ndQuadrant has experienced significant delays in at least 3 cases >> >> > also. There is definitely a problem somewhere there. >> >> >> >> The delay is called "volunteer moderators who have day jobs". >> >> >> >> > Perhaps we should make all posts wait the same length of time, to >> >> > allow reasonable time to decide whether posts are suitable? 72 hours >> >> > seems like a reasonable time for this. >> >> >> >> Who is going to do this strictly time-limited approving? >> > >> > So it auto-approves after 72 hours? I found this proposal vague. >> >> If anything automatic were to happen after 72 hours, the reasonable >> thing would be a rejection. > > ... but that's not more helpful than not doing anything, because then > the submitter needs to submit again. This creates a busy loop on which > submitter needs to watch status of his submitted news until it gets > approved. I agree. But it's the only thing we could do at all there. > I think the idea behind 72-hour auto-approve is that if it's obvious > spam someone will quickly reject it, and if it's not spam then it's not > worth rejecting. I don't think this is very palatable either. Given thta our moderators *clearly* don't have time to process it, this is almost *guarantee* to get spam postings onto our site. It won't work. I think recruiting more moderators, or somehow convincing our current ones to actually moderate more often is the only way to go. -- Magnus Hagander Me: http://www.hagander.net/ Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/ -- Sent via pgsql-www mailing list (pgsql-www@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-www