Received: from magus.postgresql.org (magus.postgresql.org [87.238.57.229]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4336417B105B for ; Fri, 11 May 2012 11:43:37 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail-lb0-f174.google.com ([209.85.217.174]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SSr49-0008Iz-BR for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Fri, 11 May 2012 14:43:36 +0000 Received: by lbbgm6 with SMTP id gm6so1937996lbb.19 for ; Fri, 11 May 2012 07:43:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=6OHVbu8QKn0nZHzFnsf9YwbDU3yrKPVoA3r4VpZyvYU=; b=eNnZmqykW1J1TfuYi0NVbu6/TV7fJSco6A2V5Yf6I4mQJm3/N5W93vbO7aW+swjk5j K+XMRE1cK/C6v24reeFEui5/SEIlLKHVBKTdDhe5WQ7SPlRvpx8coKL0LwRxZwn+zMLZ hMsAa5UPINpHBa2Wv+P/LbIFVKeCqK7GFfjFK8eimzaDLB+1axHj/Hukr2RKuNh6je2n ZXHVMYlM2QR9wvMUN/t8UkwDhWSpMsphPQEzZBX8Ev9iI36ab0e/6741ImsOKEJANPE0 mcDnFI2vbV9oBbsMgd/C5wqw9FIK2gYszq+nCSTHxDXEfUNriQvTFteD/29wSZNFatzI DA+Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.104.212 with SMTP id gg20mr8780591lab.24.1336747401121; Fri, 11 May 2012 07:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.21.234 with HTTP; Fri, 11 May 2012 07:43:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FAC0680.7020202@agliodbs.com> References: <4FAAF2B2.2010406@agliodbs.com> <20120509224502.GB16880@momjian.us> <4FAAF799.5030503@agliodbs.com> <4FAC0680.7020202@agliodbs.com> Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 16:43:21 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Add Postgres.app to the Downloads page? From: Magnus Hagander To: Josh Berkus Cc: Bruce Momjian , "pgsql-www@postgresql.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04088e3dff90b304bfc3c1f8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm/5kFCxyG+2NrCvC4ivGJ9wSESmvN2iJWmj3EMc8J5ekJSK3XZRTGuBsScPcG7eorxMoCE X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Archive-Number: 201205/28 X-Sequence-Number: 20653 --f46d04088e3dff90b304bfc3c1f8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thursday, May 10, 2012, Josh Berkus wrote: > > > We need a good description that sets it apart from the other options > > that are on the mac download page already. For example, it's > > "user-friendly mac-native" - how is that different from the EDB > > installer? (Humor me, I know very little about this part of the mac..) > > Well, this is the official description: > > Postgres.app is the easiest way to get started with PostgreSQL on the > Mac. Open the app, and you have a PostgreSQL server ready and awaiting > new connections. Close the app, and the server shuts down. > > Is that too long? > Not necessarily, but as Dave said, it's probably not *correct*. Saying "it's the simplest way" is not very informative. We need something that tells people how it's *different* fro mthe other choices (and if that requires updating the descriptions of the other choices as well, that's fine by me) > Do we know if the author is going to be keeping up properly with > > updates and patch releases? Is he (it's a guy? or a team?) on the > > packagers list? Should be? > > It's Mattt at Heroku. And yes, he should be on the packagers list. He > will be keeping up with updates and new versions, although he may drop > old versions faster than our standard EOL policy. > Ah, didn't realize that. I guess then there might well be some other people there to back him up :) Dropping old versions is perfectly ok - other packagers do that as well. But keeping up with the minors is very important. > > I'll find his email address. > > > From what I can tell the installer itself is in beta. Should we > > perhaps wait until it's release-ready? > > Works now, at least on my mac. > Sure, but works != release ready... //Magnus -- Magnus Hagander Me: http://www.hagander.net/ Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/ --f46d04088e3dff90b304bfc3c1f8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thursday, May 10, 2012, Josh Berkus wrote:

> We need a good description that sets it apart from the other options > that are on the mac download page already. For example, it's
> "user-friendly mac-native" - how is that different from the = EDB
> installer? (Humor me, I know very little about this part of the mac..)=

Well, this is the official description:

Postgres.app is the easiest way to get started with PostgreSQL on the
Mac. Open the app, and you have a PostgreSQL server ready and awaiting
new connections. Close the app, and the server shuts down.

Is that too long?

Not necessarily, but = as Dave said, it's probably not *correct*. Saying "it's the si= mplest way" is not very informative. We need something that tells peop= le how it's *different* fro mthe other choices (and if that requires up= dating the descriptions of the other choices as well, that's fine by me= )
=A0

> Do we know if the author is going to be keeping up properly with
> updates and patch releases? Is he (it's a guy? or a team?) on the<= br> > packagers list? Should be?

It's Mattt at Heroku. =A0And yes, he should be on the packagers list. = =A0He
will be keeping up with updates and new versions, although he may drop
old versions faster than our standard EOL policy.

=
Ah, didn't realize that. I guess then there might well be so= me other people there to back him up :)

Dropping o= ld versions is perfectly ok - other packagers do that as well. But keeping = up with the minors is very important.
=A0

I'll find his email address.

> From what I can tell the installer itself is in beta. Should we
> perhaps wait until it's release-ready?

Works now, at least on my mac.
=A0
Sure, but= works !=3D release ready...

//Magnus=A0

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=A0Magnus Hagander
=A0Me: http://www.hagander.net/
=A0Work: http:= //www.redpill-linpro.com/
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