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help / color / mirror / Atom feedFrom: Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
To: Dave Page <[email protected]>
Cc: PostgreSQL WWW <[email protected]>
Cc: Palle Girgensohn <[email protected]>
Cc: Pierre-Emmanuel André <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Some restructuring of the download section
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:14:25 +0800
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On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Magnus Hagander <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> So, important things first. Since it contains a lot of cut/paste
>> between different places the diff can be a bit hard to read. So I've
>> pushed a preview version of it up at
>> http://young-window-5672.herokuapp.com/download/. Username is webtest,
>> password foobar - to make sure google doesn't end up crawling it for
>> me...
>
> Thanks for working on this - it looks good.
>
>> * Remove the strange horizontal menu we used to select platform - it
>> didn't correspond to any kind of standard way of doing webpage layout,
>> and confused a lot of people
>
> Better remove the other horizontal menu at the top of the page too then :-p
>
> (that's a joke, but seriously, I've never heard of anyone getting
> confused by that - and frankly if someone does get confused by a
> horizontal list, they probably stand zero chance of using PostgreSQL
> without getting confused).
Yeah, I realize that was a joke. So maybe my phrasing was bad.
The way it was positioned as a horizontal menu *where it was*, and the
way it looks, doesn't really conform to anything that people do
elsewhere. If other sites use things like that *at all*, it's for
links to places further down on the same page or such - certainly not
for what's actually the most important links on the whole page...
>> * Introduce a more granular split between Linux distributions, to be
>> able to target information more specifically - instead of a huge
>> if/elseif/elseif block between which distro you're on. Results in more
>> pages, but a lot more structured and easy to read pages.
>
> The large bold warnings about the installers were added because they
> used to be listed at the top of the page, above the platform-specific
> packaging options (because they tended to confuse people less). It's
> yet to be seen if users will become confused again - we have the info
> they should need now, but I suspect that doesn't necessarily mean
> they'll read it before emailing us. In any case, I think those
> warnings should either be removed or made non-bold now.
I wouldn't want to remove them at all, since they're clearly still correct.
In fact, given the number of people I've run into who've had problems
because of that, I'd rather leave them as bold as well. But I'll be
happy to defer that decision to someone who's neither you nor me ;)
>> * Update the snapshot download information which has been lacking love
>> for a long time
>
> Per the above for the platform packaging warning (though, if you just
> un-bold it, it should refer to the packages above, not below).
Oh, nice one. Fixed.
>> * Mac OS X (the Fink and Macports part - I think I have the rest
>> covered by bugging people on IRC)
>
> Postgres.app shouldn't be included on there (yet) for a number of reasons:
>
> - We have noone on the packagers list maintaining releases with the
> community schedule.
> - We haven't had any commitment to maintain releases in line with our
> support policy.
> - It's still a beta.
agreed. That was actually mostly put in there as an example of how it
would look, and in the hope that they would finish it. And then I
forgot about commenting it out :-) Also done now.
--
Magnus Hagander
Me: http://www.hagander.net/
Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/
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