Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7X6b-0000fM-9e for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:14:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7X6a-000346-O7 for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:14:28 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:7903:4::125]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7X6a-00033y-6S; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:14:28 +0000 Received: from mail-oa0-f43.google.com ([209.85.219.43]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7X6Z-0002uv-0d; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:14:27 +0000 Received: by mail-oa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id l10so6232732oag.30 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 12:14:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=2kYrBk9EuUlZG+zQCiQMyHECMp3JzqoFTDaHNDz0n0U=; b=LBcNir8UAqW8lJsgUs+zN6KPQ2cX2+Cqt7NYcDullcjdhyS7khBv1ddqpH3cSxHz7z O+B2RiDcnFkUXwMio+CMjPubCx4PQdLzgr56vShFJGLyylqHoWLqv0pMFLt1BHfmBj2F 7C1gT+jYOaXBSliCkEecXweYza9bxS7XsVY8ut6Pos/XA08Qk7/7ydhw5dtjccliDJt5 vmJE1kzGMijOK5Bco8073pmMCvLnxNGjvGvMTAiKVSHdVoG3FnXBamUj6vTdC1eVDmkJ hXVOHgfqQW8TSjqN5jmGPluXotIJ2IJy2yQlBqb0pQbyHdBdxUD0AK8CD3CwlpGSmSQi 0/yA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.29.194 with SMTP id m2mr3201291oeh.36.1361218466112; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 12:14:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.104.1 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 12:14:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <51227D09.70209@kaltenbrunner.cc> References: <20130214122643.GF30046@msgid.df7cb.de> <511D2E58.6010705@agliodbs.com> <511D4E61.5050808@kaltenbrunner.cc> <20130216013854.GD12029@momjian.us> <5122719B.4090208@kaltenbrunner.cc> <51227D09.70209@kaltenbrunner.cc> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 07:14:25 +1100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [pgsql-pkg-debian] Re: We should not transition to apt.postgresql.org until we have a PPA From: Brendan Jurd To: Stefan Kaltenbrunner Cc: Dave Page , Bruce Momjian , Josh Berkus , Christoph Berg , Martin Pitt , Magnus Hagander , PostgreSQL WWW , PostgreSQL in Debian , Tom Lane Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-www Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org This may be a daft question to ask at this point in the discussion, but what does apt.postgresql.org buy us that a PPA doesn't? If the concern is to have Debian/Ubuntu packaging that has an "official" project flavour, as opposed to Martin's "personal" package archive, why don't we just set up a "postgres" PPA or similar? If it's important to have apt.postgresql.org for other reasons, then maybe the "postgres" PPA could be built from apt.p.o? I guess I just don't understand why in Zeus' beard we would move away from the PPA arrangement. It is super convenient, and as others have pointed out, it's what Ubuntu users expect to do when they need something to be more up-to-date than the standard distro package. If apt.p.o carried with it some enormous advantage then that would be okay, but reading back through the thread I'm not sure anyone has articulated such. Cheers, BJ -- Sent via pgsql-www mailing list (pgsql-www@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-www