Received: from makus.postgresql.org (makus.postgresql.org [98.129.198.125]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C7BEC7B28 for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2012 15:38:05 -0300 (ADT) Received: from outmail148110.authsmtp.com ([62.13.148.110]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SnDPn-0007EU-GW for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2012 18:38:04 +0000 Received: from mail-c193.authsmtp.com (mail-c193.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.118]) by punt7.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Kp) with ESMTP id q66IbnbO070352 for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2012 19:37:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-ob0-f174.google.com (mail-ob0-f174.google.com [209.85.214.174]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q66IbjTK069578 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2012 19:37:46 +0100 (BST) Received: by obbuo13 with SMTP id uo13so15495220obb.19 for ; Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:37:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.164.8 with SMTP id ym8mr26700553obb.51.1341599864946; Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.60.228 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Jul 2012 11:37:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FF72D24.1010206@kaltenbrunner.cc> References: <28687.1341523141@sss.pgh.pa.us> <29222.1341524488@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1341525030-sup-6100@alvh.no-ip.org> <2405.1341528250@sss.pgh.pa.us> <4FF72D24.1010206@kaltenbrunner.cc> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 19:37:44 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 9.2beta web issues From: Peter Geoghegan To: Stefan Kaltenbrunner Cc: Tom Lane , Alvaro Herrera , Magnus Hagander , "w^3" , Josh Berkus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Server-Quench: ae2d9b9e-c799-11e1-97bb-002264978518 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCdxZQATClZNQRgX EAteCiNZVAwpPBRK HVkIKg5MOFUSTAAU LVlFBkJUK0ETX1xC QjoVBBYDHl13Rhkw NxVTbQRfcktHVQZt WkxPDFBSHRtgBAID BxoAUx52aAdDZ38+ JEBkJyIBOD96c094 RUYaEWkHZSkxPWJL WRJRIh4HdwpDYx5E P1FiXXRfM3gHZnhi QVNiYGBsZGVJEikH CjIVIkkLRQMUASEJ D0FERz8iAURNWCg5 Zx09MUMRBy4A X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633235383639.1014:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 209.85.214.174/25 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Archive-Number: 201207/26 X-Sequence-Number: 20775 On 6 July 2012 19:23, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: > On 07/06/2012 12:44 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > yeah same goes for the (imho completely failed) experiment of using > google docs(...) for collecting test results as recommended on > https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/HowToBetaTest (which is linked to from > the main site on http://www.postgresql.org/developer/alpha/). > > I think we should completely drop all references to the google docs > thingy and the -testers list there and redirect people simply to -bugs > and/or hackers. +1. I'm not necessarily opposed to have a web interface, or even a full-blown bug tracker, but having just read the wiki page about beta testing, it sort of sounds like this was instituted as an official policy. That seems like a questionable way to present it to me, because I wasn't even aware that there was a google form. -- Peter Geoghegan http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training and Services