Received: from makus.postgresql.org (makus.postgresql.org [98.129.198.125]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84A51C9C23D for ; Fri, 18 May 2012 20:18:15 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail-ob0-f174.google.com ([209.85.214.174]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SVWR2-0000zF-D0 for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Fri, 18 May 2012 23:18:15 +0000 Received: by obbtb18 with SMTP id tb18so4558747obb.19 for ; Fri, 18 May 2012 16:17:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=PAfwIyw3jxl86dgRQKHHjMo1LoCBhDjAYGwQ+lOM47Y=; b=yTkmGOqheolLtHZUv5Q3CR2diMfDoerSemGpZDI7Lol7lJ2QEive1prBj1LHOK+Bkk Rb9mV6zM7zLx7V+WFXeheqXS2Uh9LwZtbZGdp+lKp6GikBJyv3rulcNCLvvrypK7Syyx xo2pEIootQ1iMcFuXuuMUEZ0EOuGqfbLZloXnhYdnoRZGn7Gyh7PoR1ZgMAE4hdy90z9 NIiqDNoqh9Gdb6TdvzUsbVPXVVlexg8v1ZK6bWaKebW4sz1dvzeXTFDMdzFCrZYzvnLk ja21EfndDL3poJIOHN1UiwnbYdg4UedxorX8b5QQkqHD4YlyFWC+sxL16qArqqxfWTYT 3WZQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.169.174 with SMTP id af14mr12050450oec.13.1337383078890; Fri, 18 May 2012 16:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.146.180 with HTTP; Fri, 18 May 2012 16:17:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1526285636.78745.1337369598304.JavaMail.root@mail-1.01.com> References: <1526285636.78745.1337369598304.JavaMail.root@mail-1.01.com> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 16:17:58 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Advantages page out of date From: Josh Kupershmidt To: Joshua Berkus Cc: "w^3" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=bcaec54c5392588cd404c057c3ed X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Archive-Number: 201205/50 X-Sequence-Number: 20674 --bcaec54c5392588cd404c057c3ed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 5/18/12, Joshua Berkus wrote: > No question. It's not remotely the only page which is horribly out of date, > either. > > Think you could write up replacement text for the page? Sure. A quick fix (patch: advantages_quickfix.diff) would be to remove just that line, and leave Hot stand-by covered by the entry for 'Replication'. I think a better solution (patch: advantages_link_matrix.diff) would be to simply link the user to the Feature Matrix, instead of trying to summarize some arbitrary subset of those features under Technical Features. If we did want to keep something like the Technical Features section around, I think its scope should be narrowed down to features which are rare, nonexistent, or limited in our competitors. Support for Unicode, sub-selects, views, etc. may have been cutting-edge features back when that page was written, but is not such a draw these days. Things like SP-GiST, KNN, per-transaction durability control, SSI, SE-Postgres, transactional DDL, JSON and Range types, etc. along with a summary of why they're better than our competitor implementations would make for an interesting read IMO. But this kind of prose seems like it'd be better suited for the wiki anyway... there's not already a page like that, other than the comparisons against MySQL, is there? I'd be happy to help start a page like that. 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