Received: from makus.postgresql.org (makus.postgresql.org [98.129.198.125]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A1C16FA502 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 11:30:28 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail-lb0-f174.google.com ([209.85.217.174]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SoEyp-0002IC-0s for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 14:30:28 +0000 Received: by lbbgm6 with SMTP id gm6so20176400lbb.19 for ; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 07:30:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=nfR4nN594RlZTPUVU3F34K871qrg3/ii4BEBtdIms0Q=; b=PYWco/zZiGHs0/wUrvm6g/eSljeg2LrRvIam2J9uQpYVQGArA/H0ELvaQJ6nQAjAQU uqXrQMocXKnHsukQtst1hBQ0CoFHQk7/lguaSmNcmImJN9TcsuoWOaupLztO0HhopxxK rFw3AKCpAK3H8JsPkqMnfFfT9t799bOeDgFuAJLYoyFsKEEVmslDBQGlP/GIF3D3xDrN UB1QTQcUA1IY5sA8tv6fbAkXDzLaplKtnI4ndt8il3Z5p2t0VMEpgMAvrUG4xptpW3Xd 0nWOhNrLpW/+2g78hwLbMoQTuiX6u4txxooKCC1RsUmn2is2Zy9hYw7gKyrAqoxKSbFG pX2g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.144.99 with SMTP id sl3mr40676493lab.44.1341844213070; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 07:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.63.148 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 07:30:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1341692590.1122.1.camel@lenovo01-laptop03.gunduz.org> <2476F91B-A1B2-45DA-96EB-8F33C79A0E05@openscg.com> <1341781012.3451.0.camel@lenovo01-laptop03.gunduz.org> Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 10:30:12 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Linux Downloads page change From: Scott Mead To: Magnus Hagander Cc: Dave Page , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Devrim_G=DCND=DCZ?= , "pgsql-www@postgresql.org" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=e89a8f2346ffa9fc8304c4667328 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnNTDnyXGT2eRAD09y8W2my5i4Aot4CX8Zw7Kwgft5WU1Zj8EzNP2JR04hk8OGf8kecQwYg X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Archive-Number: 201207/59 X-Sequence-Number: 20808 --e89a8f2346ffa9fc8304c4667328 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f2346ffa9fc7f04c4667326 --e89a8f2346ffa9fc7f04c4667326 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Scott Mead wrote: > > On Jul 9, 2012 5:31 AM, "Magnus Hagander" wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Scott Mead wrote: > > > > > >> > That aside though, the code must be 100% open source to be listed on > > >> > those download pages; Scottie, where can people find the spec files, > > >> > BitRock XML files or whatever? > > > > > > In the past we have always provided them upon request ( we were > asked only > > > nce :). But we can work that out, no problem. > > > > Yes, please look into that. > > > > > > >> While I agree with that requirement in general, we should apply it > > >> fairly. AFAICT the latest release of the EDB installers that had > > >> sourcecode with it was 9.0.2 - I have a hard time seeing that nothing > > >> would've changed since... None of the changes that have been discussed > > >> on the lists here in the past couple of months are anywhere to be > > >> seen.. So should we remove the EDB installers from the page as well? > > >> > > >> > > >> > Also, I took a quick look at the GIT history for the download pages, > > >> > and as far as I can see there weren't any links to these RPMs in the > > >> > past, so I'm not sure what has been removed exactly. Scott; can you > > >> > point me at the commit that changed what you're referring to please? > > >> > > >> I assume he's referring to: > > >> -

Download > > >> the packages from OpenSCG.< > > >> -

The multi-platform binary packages are maintained by > >> href="http://www.openscg.org">Open > > >> > > >> from commit b282714a097f767b258e469fb80225b638864a19. They used to be > > >> on the "generic linux" page, as well as on the "generic downloads > > >> page". They are now only on the "generic downloads page". > > > > > > Exactly, this is the link I was talking about. > > > > Given that the whole idea of the redesign is to help people figure out > > why they should choose the different options, can you provide a patch > > to that page that actually includes a good description of *why* these > > would be preferable to the standard RPMs? > > Absolutely, I'm boarding a flight now, but will work on it once I hit > 10,000 ft. > PFA a patch for the linux download pages --Scottie > --Scottie > > > > > -- > > Magnus Hagander > > Me: http://www.hagander.net/ > > Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/ > --e89a8f2346ffa9fc7f04c4667326 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Scott Mead <= span dir=3D"ltr"><scottm@openscg.com> wrote:


On Jul 9, 2012 5:31 AM, "Magnus Hagander" <magnus@hagander.net> wrote: >
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Scott Mead <scottm@openscg.com> wrote:
> >
> >> > That aside though, the code must be 100% open source to = be listed on
> >> > those download pages; Scottie, where can people find the= spec files,
> >> > BitRock XML files or whatever?
> >
> > =A0 In the past we have always provided them upon request ( we we= re asked only
> > nce :). =A0But we can work that out, no problem.
>
> Yes, please look into that.
>
>
> >> While I agree with that requirement in general, we should app= ly it
> >> fairly. AFAICT the latest release of the EDB installers that = had
> >> sourcecode with it was 9.0.2 - I have a hard time seeing that= nothing
> >> would've changed since... None of the changes that have b= een discussed
> >> on the lists here in the past couple of months are anywhere t= o be
> >> seen.. So should we remove the EDB installers from the page a= s well?
> >>
> >>
> >> > Also, I took a quick look at the GIT history for the dow= nload pages,
> >> > and as far as I can see there weren't any links to t= hese RPMs in the
> >> > past, so I'm not sure what has been removed exactly.= Scott; can you
> >> > point me at the commit that changed what you're refe= rring to please?
> >>
> >> I assume he's referring to:
> >> -<p><a href=3D"http://www.openscg.org/postgresql/= packages">Download</a>
> >> the packages from OpenSCG.<
> >> -<p><i>The multi-platform binary packages are mai= ntained by <a
> >> href=3D"http://www.openscg.org">Open
> >>
> >> from commit b282714a097f767b258e469fb80225b638864a19. They us= ed to be
> >> on the "generic linux" page, as well as on the &quo= t;generic downloads
> >> page". They are now only on the "generic downloads = page".
> >
> > Exactly, this is the link I was talking about.
>
> Given that the whole idea of the redesign is to help people figure out=
> why they should choose the different options, can you provide a patch<= br> > to that page that actually includes a good description of *why* these<= br> > would be preferable to the standard RPMs?

Absolutely, I'm boarding a flight now, but will work on = it once I hit 10,000 ft.

PFA a patch for the linux dow= nload pages=A0

--Scottie

=A0

--Scottie

>
> --
> =A0Magnus Hagander
> =A0Me: http://w= ww.hagander.net/
> =A0Work: = http://www.redpill-linpro.com/


--e89a8f2346ffa9fc7f04c4667326-- --e89a8f2346ffa9fc8304c4667328 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="linux_debian.patch" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="linux_debian.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Attachment-Id: f_h4fndu7g0 KioqIGxpbnV4X2RlYmlhbi5vcmlnLmh0bWwJMjAxMi0wNy0wOSAxMDoyNjoxNi4wMDAwMDAwMDAg LTA0MDAKLS0tIGxpbnV4X2RlYmlhbi5odG1sCTIwMTItMDctMDkgMTA6MjI6MzcuMDAwMDAwMDAw IC0wNDAwCioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKgoqKiogMTY5LDE3NCAqKioqCi0tLSAxNjksMTg4IC0tLS0K ICB0aGUgYnVpbHRpbiByZXBvc2l0b3JpZXMuCiAgPC9wPgogIAorIDxoMj5HZW5lcmljIHBhY2th Z2VzPC9oMj4KKyA8cD4KKyBHZW5lcmljIFJQTSBhbmQgREVCIHBhY2thZ2VzIGFyZSBhdmFpbGFi bGUgZm9yIDMyIGFuZCA2NCBiaXQgTGludXggZGlzdHJpYnV0aW9ucworIGFuZCBwcm92aWRlIGEg c2VydmVyLW9ubHkgZGlzdHJpYnV0aW9uIG9mIHRoZSBkYXRhYmFzZS4KKyBUaGVzZSBwYWNrYWdl cyBwcm92aWRlIGEgc2luZ2xlIHNldCBvZiBiaW5hcmllcyBhbmQgY29uc2lzdGVudCBwYWNrYWdp bmcgYWNyb3NzCisgYSBudW1iZXIgb2YgTGludXggZGlzdHJpYnV0aW9ucy4gIFRoZXkgYXJlIGRl c2lnbmVkIGZvciBwcm9kdWN0aW9uIHNlcnZlciAKKyBpbnN0YWxsYXRpb24gd2hlcmUgYSBHVUkg aXMgbm90IGF2YWlsYWJsZSBhbmQgY29uc2lzdGVuY3kgYWNyb3NzIAorIG11bHRpcGxlIGRpc3Ry aWJ1dGlvbnMgaXMgYSByZXF1aXJlbWVudC4KKyA8L3A+CisgPHA+CisgPGEgaHJlZj0iaHR0cDov L3d3dy5vcGVuc2NnLm9yZy9wb3N0Z3Jlc3FsL3BhY2thZ2VzIj5Eb3dubG9hZDwvYT4KKyB0aGUg cGFja2FnZXMgZnJvbSBPcGVuU0NHIGZvciBhbGwgc3VwcG9ydGVkIHZlcnNpb25zLgorIDwvcD4K KyAKICA8aDI+R3JhcGhpY2FsIGluc3RhbGxlcjwvaDI+CiAgPHA+CiAgT25lIGNsaWNrIGluc3Rh bGxlcnMgYXJlIGF2YWlsYWJsZSBmb3IgMzIgYW5kIDY0IGJpdCBMaW51eCBkaXN0cmlidXRpb25z Cg== --e89a8f2346ffa9fc8304c4667328 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="linux_other.patch" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="linux_other.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Attachment-Id: f_h4fndu7n1 KioqIGxpbnV4Lm9yaWcuaHRtbAkyMDEyLTA3LTA5IDEwOjE0OjMxLjAwMDAwMDAwMCAtMDQwMAot LS0gbGludXguaHRtbAkyMDEyLTA3LTA5IDEwOjE0OjE1LjAwMDAwMDAwMCAtMDQwMAoqKioqKioq KioqKioqKioKKioqIDE1MiwxNTcgKioqKgotLS0gMTUyLDE3MSAtLS0tCiAgdGhlIGRvY3VtZW50 YXRpb24gZm9yIHlvdXIgTGludXggZGlzdHJpYnV0aW9uLgogIDwvcD4KICAKKyA8aDI+R2VuZXJp YyBwYWNrYWdlczwvaDI+CisgPHA+CisgR2VuZXJpYyBSUE0gYW5kIERFQiBwYWNrYWdlcyBhcmUg YXZhaWxhYmxlIGZvciAzMiBhbmQgNjQgYml0IExpbnV4IGRpc3RyaWJ1dGlvbnMKKyBhbmQgcHJv dmlkZSBhIHNlcnZlci1vbmx5IGRpc3RyaWJ1dGlvbiBvZiB0aGUgZGF0YWJhc2UuCisgVGhlc2Ug cGFja2FnZXMgcHJvdmlkZSBhIHNpbmdsZSBzZXQgb2YgYmluYXJpZXMgYW5kIGNvbnNpc3RlbnQg cGFja2FnaW5nIGFjcm9zcworIGEgbnVtYmVyIG9mIExpbnV4IGRpc3RyaWJ1dGlvbnMuICBUaGV5 IGFyZSBkZXNpZ25lZCBmb3IgcHJvZHVjdGlvbiBzZXJ2ZXIgCisgaW5zdGFsbGF0aW9uIHdoZXJl IGEgR1VJIGlzIG5vdCBhdmFpbGFibGUgYW5kIGNvbnNpc3RlbmN5IGFjcm9zcyAKKyBtdWx0aXBs ZSBkaXN0cmlidXRpb25zIGlzIGEgcmVxdWlyZW1lbnQuCisgPC9wPgorIDxwPgorIDxhIGhyZWY9 Imh0dHA6Ly93d3cub3BlbnNjZy5vcmcvcG9zdGdyZXNxbC9wYWNrYWdlcyI+RG93bmxvYWQ8L2E+ CisgdGhlIHBhY2thZ2VzIGZyb20gT3BlblNDRyBmb3IgYWxsIHN1cHBvcnRlZCB2ZXJzaW9ucy4K KyA8L3A+CisgCiAgPGgyPkdyYXBoaWNhbCBpbnN0YWxsZXI8L2gyPgogIDxwPgogIE9uZSBjbGlj ayBpbnN0YWxsZXJzIGFyZSBhdmFpbGFibGUgZm9yIDMyIGFuZCA2NCBiaXQgTGludXggZGlzdHJp YnV0aW9ucwo= --e89a8f2346ffa9fc8304c4667328 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="linux_redhat.patch" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="linux_redhat.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Attachment-Id: f_h4fndu7p2 KioqIGxpbnV4X3JlZGhhdC5vcmlnLmh0bWwJMjAxMi0wNy0wOSAxMDoyNjozMi4wMDAwMDAwMDAg LTA0MDAKLS0tIGxpbnV4X3JlZGhhdC5odG1sCTIwMTItMDctMDkgMTA6MTI6MTQuMDAwMDAwMDAw IC0wNDAwCioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKgoqKiogMjQ0LDI0OSAqKioqCi0tLSAyNDQsMjYzIC0tLS0K ICBhbmQgbWFudWFsIGluc3RhbGxhdGlvbiBhcyB3ZWxsLgogIDwvcD4KICAKKyA8aDI+R2VuZXJp YyBwYWNrYWdlczwvaDI+CisgPHA+CisgR2VuZXJpYyBSUE0gYW5kIERFQiBwYWNrYWdlcyBhcmUg YXZhaWxhYmxlIGZvciAzMiBhbmQgNjQgYml0IExpbnV4IGRpc3RyaWJ1dGlvbnMKKyBhbmQgcHJv dmlkZSBhIHNlcnZlci1vbmx5IGRpc3RyaWJ1dGlvbiBvZiB0aGUgZGF0YWJhc2UuCisgVGhlc2Ug cGFja2FnZXMgcHJvdmlkZSBhIHNpbmdsZSBzZXQgb2YgYmluYXJpZXMgYW5kIGNvbnNpc3RlbnQg cGFja2FnaW5nIGFjcm9zcworIGEgbnVtYmVyIG9mIExpbnV4IGRpc3RyaWJ1dGlvbnMuICBUaGV5 IGFyZSBkZXNpZ25lZCBmb3IgcHJvZHVjdGlvbiBzZXJ2ZXIgCisgaW5zdGFsbGF0aW9uIHdoZXJl IGEgR1VJIGlzIG5vdCBhdmFpbGFibGUgYW5kIGNvbnNpc3RlbmN5IGFjcm9zcyAKKyBtdWx0aXBs ZSBkaXN0cmlidXRpb25zIGlzIGEgcmVxdWlyZW1lbnQuCisgPC9wPgorIDxwPgorIDxhIGhyZWY9 Imh0dHA6Ly93d3cub3BlbnNjZy5vcmcvcG9zdGdyZXNxbC9wYWNrYWdlcyI+RG93bmxvYWQ8L2E+ CisgdGhlIHBhY2thZ2VzIGZyb20gT3BlblNDRyBmb3IgYWxsIHN1cHBvcnRlZCB2ZXJzaW9ucy4K KyA8L3A+CisgCiAgPGgyPkdyYXBoaWNhbCBpbnN0YWxsZXI8L2gyPgogIDxwPgogIE9uZSBjbGlj ayBpbnN0YWxsZXJzIGFyZSBhdmFpbGFibGUgZm9yIDMyIGFuZCA2NCBiaXQgTGludXggZGlzdHJp YnV0aW9ucwo= --e89a8f2346ffa9fc8304c4667328 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="linux_suse.patch" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="linux_suse.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Attachment-Id: f_h4fndu7r3 KioqIGxpbnV4X3N1c2Uub3JpZy5odG1sCTIwMTItMDctMDkgMTA6MjU6NTUuMDAwMDAwMDAwIC0w NDAwCi0tLSBsaW51eF9zdXNlLmh0bWwJMjAxMi0wNy0wOSAxMDoyNToxMy4wMDAwMDAwMDAgLTA0 MDAKKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqCioqKiAxNDMsMTQ4ICoqKioKLS0tIDE0MywxNjIgLS0tLQogIHRv IGZpbmQgc3VpdGFibGUgcGFja2FnZXMuIERvY3VtZW50YXRpb24gaXMgYWxzbyBhdmFpbGFibGUg dGhlcmUuCiAgPC9wPgogIAorIDxoMj5HZW5lcmljIHBhY2thZ2VzPC9oMj4KKyA8cD4KKyBHZW5l cmljIFJQTSBhbmQgREVCIHBhY2thZ2VzIGFyZSBhdmFpbGFibGUgZm9yIDMyIGFuZCA2NCBiaXQg TGludXggZGlzdHJpYnV0aW9ucworIGFuZCBwcm92aWRlIGEgc2VydmVyLW9ubHkgZGlzdHJpYnV0 aW9uIG9mIHRoZSBkYXRhYmFzZS4KKyBUaGVzZSBwYWNrYWdlcyBwcm92aWRlIGEgc2luZ2xlIHNl dCBvZiBiaW5hcmllcyBhbmQgY29uc2lzdGVudCBwYWNrYWdpbmcgYWNyb3NzCisgYSBudW1iZXIg b2YgTGludXggZGlzdHJpYnV0aW9ucy4gIFRoZXkgYXJlIGRlc2lnbmVkIGZvciBwcm9kdWN0aW9u IHNlcnZlciAKKyBpbnN0YWxsYXRpb24gd2hlcmUgYSBHVUkgaXMgbm90IGF2YWlsYWJsZSBhbmQg Y29uc2lzdGVuY3kgYWNyb3NzIAorIG11bHRpcGxlIGRpc3RyaWJ1dGlvbnMgaXMgYSByZXF1aXJl bWVudC4KKyA8L3A+CisgPHA+CisgPGEgaHJlZj0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy5vcGVuc2NnLm9yZy9wb3N0 Z3Jlc3FsL3BhY2thZ2VzIj5Eb3dubG9hZDwvYT4KKyB0aGUgcGFja2FnZXMgZnJvbSBPcGVuU0NH IGZvciBhbGwgc3VwcG9ydGVkIHZlcnNpb25zLgorIDwvcD4KKyAKICA8aDI+R3JhcGhpY2FsIGlu c3RhbGxlcjwvaDI+CiAgPHA+CiAgT25lIGNsaWNrIGluc3RhbGxlcnMgYXJlIGF2YWlsYWJsZSBm b3IgMzIgYW5kIDY0IGJpdCBMaW51eCBkaXN0cmlidXRpb25zCg== --e89a8f2346ffa9fc8304c4667328 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="linux_ubuntu.patch" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="linux_ubuntu.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Attachment-Id: f_h4fndu7s4 KioqIGxpbnV4X3VidW50dS5vcmlnLmh0bWwJMjAxMi0wNy0wOSAxMDoyNjowMy4wMDAwMDAwMDAg LTA0MDAKLS0tIGxpbnV4X3VidW50dS5odG1sCTIwMTItMDctMDkgMTA6MjQ6MDMuMDAwMDAwMDAw IC0wNDAwCioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKgoqKiogMTc2LDE4MSAqKioqCi0tLSAxNzYsMTk1IC0tLS0K ICBzYW1lIHdheSBhcyB0aGUgb25lcyBpbmNsdWRlZCBpbiB0aGUgZGlzdHJpYnV0aW9uLgogIDwv cD4KICAKKyA8aDI+R2VuZXJpYyBwYWNrYWdlczwvaDI+CisgPHA+CisgR2VuZXJpYyBSUE0gYW5k IERFQiBwYWNrYWdlcyBhcmUgYXZhaWxhYmxlIGZvciAzMiBhbmQgNjQgYml0IExpbnV4IGRpc3Ry aWJ1dGlvbnMKKyBhbmQgcHJvdmlkZSBhIHNlcnZlci1vbmx5IGRpc3RyaWJ1dGlvbiBvZiB0aGUg ZGF0YWJhc2UuCisgVGhlc2UgcGFja2FnZXMgcHJvdmlkZSBhIHNpbmdsZSBzZXQgb2YgYmluYXJp ZXMgYW5kIGNvbnNpc3RlbnQgcGFja2FnaW5nIGFjcm9zcworIGEgbnVtYmVyIG9mIExpbnV4IGRp c3RyaWJ1dGlvbnMuICBUaGV5IGFyZSBkZXNpZ25lZCBmb3IgcHJvZHVjdGlvbiBzZXJ2ZXIgCisg aW5zdGFsbGF0aW9uIHdoZXJlIGEgR1VJIGlzIG5vdCBhdmFpbGFibGUgYW5kIGNvbnNpc3RlbmN5 IGFjcm9zcyAKKyBtdWx0aXBsZSBkaXN0cmlidXRpb25zIGlzIGEgcmVxdWlyZW1lbnQuCisgPC9w PgorIDxwPgorIDxhIGhyZWY9Imh0dHA6Ly93d3cub3BlbnNjZy5vcmcvcG9zdGdyZXNxbC9wYWNr YWdlcyI+RG93bmxvYWQ8L2E+CisgdGhlIHBhY2thZ2VzIGZyb20gT3BlblNDRyBmb3IgYWxsIHN1 cHBvcnRlZCB2ZXJzaW9ucy4KKyA8L3A+CisgCiAgPGgyPkdyYXBoaWNhbCBpbnN0YWxsZXI8L2gy PgogIDxwPgogIE9uZSBjbGljayBpbnN0YWxsZXJzIGFyZSBhdmFpbGFibGUgZm9yIDMyIGFuZCA2 NCBiaXQgTGludXggZGlzdHJpYnV0aW9ucwo= --e89a8f2346ffa9fc8304c4667328--