Received: from magus.postgresql.org (magus.postgresql.org [87.238.57.229]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D2DC83CB0 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 11:25:43 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail-lb0-f174.google.com ([209.85.217.174]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SobNk-0005dB-2R for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 14:25:43 +0000 Received: by lbbgm6 with SMTP id gm6so418593lbb.19 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 07:25:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=5JYyiwXxyRU7NhgGuCtLpDHc/vHxTbr9wpIvaULpGXQ=; b=QWFzFdFxF0v05E5rSvoJkdE/3b+UnJyoip7bQF/s8278FvgUwKNUn6nXVbyvhXMg1u czmdgL7irCN8tKnXsIboQ+BObP1RndBFcpi4gFCdz4qaDiwnFDK8Vx1EJu5z9L2rC1cY UtVqRIVejLsjm6D/JLg8FH6AOVekEwmk8AxKlRLtp3vycO7VSc8KpqXw74Cl96JM20xS oEd7mbQM0ydsSrQ/tuHYPA8MlXoMLSu/YtpCf6Y+oAWdsXj+iuFv5EIyKXcwSy/HwH/P 7aRgm6o6IBCK6ujxdaNO997f2BJiRR8dMcQmhBVnB4+1aG5yk9CVtLX2FqjcI+EY8Kcv 7rrw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.99.71 with SMTP id eo7mr20858166lbb.84.1341930327019; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 07:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.63.148 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 07:25:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120709175359.GB5920@momjian.us> References: <1341692590.1122.1.camel@lenovo01-laptop03.gunduz.org> <2476F91B-A1B2-45DA-96EB-8F33C79A0E05@openscg.com> <1341781012.3451.0.camel@lenovo01-laptop03.gunduz.org> <20120709175359.GB5920@momjian.us> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 10:25:26 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Linux Downloads page change From: Scott Mead To: Bruce Momjian Cc: Magnus Hagander , Dave Page , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Devrim_G=DCND=DCZ?= , "pgsql-www@postgresql.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04016a2374905d04c47a8008 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm43/ic3dlx6yCt6nx1fAAT1/xtvIdRKxlz5CqsEdNyIK/ggQgEM4bJN/hq11H7ZpfszsoB X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Archive-Number: 201207/71 X-Sequence-Number: 20820 --f46d04016a2374905d04c47a8008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:30:12AM -0400, Scott Mead wrote: > > > Given that the whole idea of the redesign is to help people figure > out > > > why they should choose the different options, can you provide a > patch > > > to that page that actually includes a good description of *why* > these > > > would be preferable to the standard RPMs? > > > > Absolutely, I'm boarding a flight now, but will work on it once I hit > > 10,000 ft. > > > > PFA a patch for the linux download pages > > > They are designed for production server installation where a GUI is not > > available and consistency across multiple distributions is a > > requirement. > > What installers require a GUI? I thought the EnterpriseDB installers > have a no-gui option? Do you mean they include no GUI binaries like > PGAdmin? > Two things specifically: 1) A no-gui option The bitrock installers do have this, but at times, the technology isn't perfect. Many times, people want to just run a command and have it install. The idea with an RPM of these binaries is that we get the benefit of the same binaries across installers, AND lower the barrier to entry by making rpm -ivh ... just work. 2) no GUI binaries This package is a 'server-only' install. Same binaries, smaller download size, quick and simple install / start / up and running. --Scottie > > -- > Bruce Momjian http://momjian.us > EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com > > + It's impossible for everything to be true. + > --f46d04016a2374905d04c47a8008 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Bruce Momjia= n <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:
On Mon, Jul =A09, 2012 at 10:30:12AM -0400, Scott Mead wr= ote:
> =A0 =A0 > Given that the whole idea of the redesign is to help peop= le figure out
> =A0 =A0 > why they should choose the different options, can you pro= vide a patch
> =A0 =A0 > to that page that actually includes a good description of= *why* these
> =A0 =A0 > would be preferable to the standard RPMs?
>
> =A0 =A0 Absolutely, I'm boarding a flight now, but will work on it= once I hit
> =A0 =A0 10,000 ft.
>
> PFA a patch for the linux download pages

> They are designed for production server installation where a GUI= is not
> available and consistency across multiple distributions is a
> requirement.

What installers require a GUI? =A0I thought the EnterpriseDB installers
have a no-gui option? =A0Do you mean they include no GUI binaries like
PGAdmin?

Two things specifically:

=A0 1) A = no-gui option
=A0=A0=A0 The bitrock installers do have this, but at time= s, the technology isn't perfect.=A0 Many times, people want to just run= a command and have it install.=A0 The idea with an RPM of these binaries i= s that we get the benefit of the same binaries across installers, AND lower= the barrier to entry by making rpm -ivh ... just work.

=A0 2) no GUI binaries
=A0=A0=A0=A0 This package is a 'server-on= ly' install.=A0 Same binaries, smaller download size, quick and simple = install / start / up and running.

--Scottie

=A0

--
=A0 Bruce Momjian =A0<bruce@momjian.= us> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0h= ttp://momjian.us
=A0 EnterpriseDB =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://enterprisedb.com=

=A0 + It's impossible for everything to be true. +

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