Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hTVKt-0005gF-Fi for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 17:47:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hTVKs-0005gS-2H for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 17:47:30 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hTVKr-0005g7-O8 for pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 17:47:29 +0000 Received: from mail-it1-x132.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::132]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hTVKo-0000VA-Lt for pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 17:47:29 +0000 Received: by mail-it1-x132.google.com with SMTP id m140so4423725itg.2 for ; Wed, 22 May 2019 10:47:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=XII0oDmZztOcjmtlfw9lwDmhfiXzPSjDXlQX0zX4d4w=; b=XHFGcEqJMx2s43SBZD9l+73CPFaCr0DJL6GYCpGN8wrm+Oas92hzDCPsGZJZ143HhV 2Gd+7n9yCURPv3/DDPIw4xY2FwtL3UsswrBRxqc529ebMvAmsrT/f3BQbBNJ60V7E+ww oc/zrXTABze2HXM+vH3pCx7agJcA5vi3xUBGSpyvL9Xu3acjqGTeFURtwF+UNnR0NDyg VoQ43i/o9qwYjbUrZX/ijdjTTRFa2HkQnRiu1TP2vNEzz5cMrI7wco2bHbuoU5Ddrfpo X4m+CCAlrQZ8XaiTm15DOT+Hx7CjKPm+zEEJDWY+ENYxqv2/njOoTX8+eKsw5CRawA8P nLpA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=XII0oDmZztOcjmtlfw9lwDmhfiXzPSjDXlQX0zX4d4w=; b=f8hlVaaJZH5hrVuur8ig6vjysuBTBxEzXXTVTXSfPTzP4ylq8QLpJnk7BlsN2UkFjl ANA9mKilLwI7Rx4uYykJwSKbmAxuFzeOEjvJqO24F9nEVq9JczgdIeX1jI8ime/Uy/wQ xDA2Rg+IPflv0IlMyf4IiYjKx9rQ4LKKzdyLO6FyGQ1rKQHFk9etHFQL54e3FHrsLeg4 exU+9IBJXZvC47lmAnULJhez9YK/jJaya225qIu+31nuZU+r8PSJDU3YHuUoOub1swW2 R5BNhV9GJ46VRnp9GrrpkEAHxrkbn+k+htRSBa6kBf7XifUw0d3drmwnokx0SOFPTt+b d+lw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVKxwucS4dNQjxGPM37/MiGSxs6W/WKB34WddqGgNuajr0oNGpy u6ZcOLsxwQ0WkXUsoIb8i1ttFVJLPmBxLVSCz/2q8A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwJhrDMFpXBDTUbpcAd3F2ijPrBEeUc/VfldOUgWcSaRC6BJjvgFboHLM4/dFL1z4770N3VEWX02MDCEsh/6lw= X-Received: by 2002:a24:1dce:: with SMTP id 197mr10087587itj.16.1558547244351; Wed, 22 May 2019 10:47:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Umair Shahid Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 22:47:12 +0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Cleaning up the Download options To: Dave Page Cc: PostgreSQL WWW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000dd867a05897d8e02" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --000000000000dd867a05897d8e02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 1:03 PM Dave Page wrote: > > > On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 6:25 PM Umair Shahid > wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 4:46 PM Umair Shahid >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 4:34 PM Dave Page wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 12:30 PM Umair Shahid >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 11:49 AM Umair Shahid >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 8:14 PM Dave Page wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I've just reviewed all the download options on the website. A number >>>>>>> are out of date or have other issues, so I think we need to have a cleanup: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Primary downloads: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - postgresql.org packages are up to date. >>>>>>> - EDB installers are up to date. >>>>>>> - BigSQL installers are up to date. >>>>>>> - postgres.app is up to date. >>>>>>> - Fink is a release behind on 9.4 through 10, and doesn't carry 11 >>>>>>> at all as far as I can tell. >>>>>>> - MacPorts is up to date. >>>>>>> - The Homebrew link seems to go to a download site which after many >>>>>>> clicks gives me the Windows installer from EDB(!). I've fixed that now. The >>>>>>> packages appear to be a release behind on all supported branches. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thoughts on whether we should make any changes to the Fink and Brew >>>>>>> distributions? We used to require that the primary downloads be maintained >>>>>>> on our schedule, so by rights they should be removed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Secondary (third party) downloads: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - LiveCD - this hasn't been updated since 9.6 in December 2016. It >>>>>>> should be removed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - 2UDA - This hasn't been updated since May 2018, and is currently >>>>>>> carrying 11beta1, 10.4, 9.6.9 and 9.5.13. I think this should be removed. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I know there is an effort in the works to accommodate Postgres >>>>>> Installer from 2ndQuadrant in the Downloads section somewhere. That is one >>>>>> reason 2UDA hasn't been updated. Perhaps we can redirect the 2UDA traffic >>>>>> to Postgres Installer till we figure out how to restructure the Downloads >>>>>> section? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I didn't hear back anything on this suggestion. I can get the redirect >>>>> added quite quickly if there are no objections. >>>>> >>>> >>>> No, because as I mentioned in my original email, I went on leave. I'm >>>> still working through my backlog. >>>> >>> >>> I understand. I didn't mean my comment to be directed at you. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> The PostgreSQL installers and 2UDA are different things and should be >>>> treated on their own merits in my opinion. We should not have links for one >>>> thing that point to something that is obviously quite different. >>>> >>> >>> I think that makes sense. Perhaps we should consider changing the text >>> to better suit Postgres Installer rather than 2UDA here. >>> >>> Separate FYI, 2ndQuadrant had restarted efforts on 2UDA anyways and will >>> be making updated packages available before the end of next week. >>> >> >> FYI, updated 2UDA packages are now available on the said link. >> > > Thanks Umair. I assume the intention is to keep them up to date moving > forwards? > That's correct. I do, however, want to continue exploring the possibility of listing Postgres Installer. > > -- > Dave Page > Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com > Twitter: @pgsnake > > EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com > The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company > --000000000000dd867a05897d8e02 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 1:03 PM Dave = Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wro= te:


On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 6:25 PM Umair Shahid <= umair.shahid@gm= ail.com> wrote:


On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 4:46 P= M Umair Shahid <umair.shahid@gmail.com> wrote:


<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Tue, May= 14, 2019 at 4:34 PM Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:


On T= ue, May 14, 2019 at 12:30 PM Umair Shahid <umair.shahid@gmail.com> wrote:


On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 11:49 AM Umair Shahid <umair.shahid@gmail.com> wrote:


On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 8:14 PM Dave Page= <dpage@pgadmin.o= rg> wrote:
I've just reviewed all the download options on the w= ebsite. A number are out of date or have other issues, so I think we need t= o have a cleanup:

Primary downloads:

- postgresql.org<= /a> packages are up to date.
- EDB installers are up = to date.
- BigSQL installers are up to date.
- postgres= .app is up to date.
- Fink is a release behind on 9.4 through 10,= and doesn't carry 11 at all as far as I can tell.
- MacPorts= is up to date.
- The Homebrew link seems to go to a download sit= e which after many clicks gives me the Windows installer from EDB(!). I'= ;ve fixed that now. The packages appear to be a release behind on all suppo= rted branches.

Thoughts on whether we should make = any changes to the Fink and Brew distributions? We used to require that the= primary downloads be maintained on our schedule, so by rights they should = be removed.

Secondary (third party) downloads:

- LiveCD - this hasn't been updated since 9.6 in = December 2016. It should be removed.

- 2UDA - This= hasn't been updated since May 2018, and is currently carrying 11beta1,= 10.4, 9.6.9 and 9.5.13. I think this should be removed.
<= /blockquote>

I know there is an effort in the works to a= ccommodate Postgres Installer from 2ndQuadrant in the Downloads section som= ewhere. That is one reason 2UDA hasn't been updated. Perhaps we can red= irect the 2UDA traffic to Postgres Installer till we figure out how to rest= ructure the Downloads section?=C2=A0



The PostgreSQL installers and 2UDA are diff= erent things and should be treated on their own merits in my opinion. We sh= ould not have links for one thing that point to something that is obviously= quite different.


Separate FYI, 2ndQuadrant had restarted efforts on 2UDA anyways and will = be making updated packages available before the end of next week.=C2=A0


Thanks Umair. I assume the intention is to keep them up to = date moving forwards?

Tha= t's correct.=C2=A0

I do, however, want to cont= inue exploring the possibility of listing Postgres Installer.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
--
Dave Page
= Blog: http://pgsn= ake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.= com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
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