Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQVtY-00044I-GG for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 14 May 2019 11:46:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQVtX-0004PH-2a for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 14 May 2019 11:46:55 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQVtW-0004P9-M4 for pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 14 May 2019 11:46:54 +0000 Received: from mail-io1-xd41.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::d41]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQVtT-0003LM-84 for pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 14 May 2019 11:46:53 +0000 Received: by mail-io1-xd41.google.com with SMTP id z4so12771526iol.0 for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 04:46:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Ljnu3d+1LS58fPaeEBtBE+0rtwTF8JlC9WD0/q0Lz5Q=; b=m/nT5ADHas9GxntQ94osDD9ivsnsJL0y6+0Y9u8BVlUfh+F441M9q11tKz8SEKnhpR +fN3PmdMtgtQXnw536XkN4qhRfDJZc+r6NA2XHb6xay/rtqmsp18A00B3VuY5FRGo5gk y9Iqxgq3le29QoWAfSNoX6CmKp5IXNfd1Ej3gAqC9+3KgRVHcSvX70W8l34U/1CQH/fU 2NHY00NqPQNBsBxqhp61MQbXA2lmr8gJXK8CtrlyHx08RDCDIr3SLeGocwV7/S0tN8cD Xpqdle3BnqM39169duQAYNJXs4kVXwn3+ApqjXW1Tf4NklzeX/hu2cYp6h6vj7ZlQrRz rXzw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Ljnu3d+1LS58fPaeEBtBE+0rtwTF8JlC9WD0/q0Lz5Q=; b=IksbS0Ks/fbnZLkENXXITECJYUtZPoLOgW9sKQVBbBQgPAdQrvhy3iggH/kXdyN1oW kLZ2lAdCvSMquT9T2hkw8ERDAnDaTpUhPT/JLlVjGpoU039xNKo3ogiHJPvFJvrlQxpF JKBJraM4zJNHxmoGMsDH5Cdcq/fgj/V9PwNG/eaum49eGHFf2REfXTticUcuwJ/E5jEG arezRKiVjbGfBAvqS1DtWBc7g6s6QBY7459QE+MK7bSY0Y5So2yEfyZJuQOMQcpvi7pW meinBu9sEu99ZK4eZRCH6Ezv7y5ZS1QIJO0a10pXEq3oIvJle342vjWNWZZutst6C3q1 VjFg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVfqqXD3zb0eyQSJuNU5XuH5E5d5Bj9MMk7vXFaaq3ggRAOEo+M xNdatwMf3XlMpS/DIK51KDRwvFGkgL2V5qSg6nc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzWCeo9fU63vs/uExnF4Cg7FcDsrkudYxrBoAb4LhINKRKbwDcM3SWQ3zhpyqH7Zhy06wMn4yv0y2U9+yy3xd4= X-Received: by 2002:a5e:8d13:: with SMTP id m19mr19908417ioj.304.1557834410251; Tue, 14 May 2019 04:46:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Umair Shahid Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 16:46:39 +0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Cleaning up the Download options To: Dave Page Cc: PostgreSQL WWW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a460980588d79667" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --000000000000a460980588d79667 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 4:34 PM Dave Page wrote: > > > On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 12:30 PM Umair Shahid > wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 11:49 AM Umair Shahid >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 8:14 PM Dave Page wrote: >>> >>>> I've just reviewed all the download options on the website. A number >>>> are out of date or have other issues, so I think we need to have a cleanup: >>>> >>>> Primary downloads: >>>> >>>> - postgresql.org packages are up to date. >>>> - EDB installers are up to date. >>>> - BigSQL installers are up to date. >>>> - postgres.app is up to date. >>>> - Fink is a release behind on 9.4 through 10, and doesn't carry 11 at >>>> all as far as I can tell. >>>> - MacPorts is up to date. >>>> - The Homebrew link seems to go to a download site which after many >>>> clicks gives me the Windows installer from EDB(!). I've fixed that now. The >>>> packages appear to be a release behind on all supported branches. >>>> >>>> Thoughts on whether we should make any changes to the Fink and Brew >>>> distributions? We used to require that the primary downloads be maintained >>>> on our schedule, so by rights they should be removed. >>>> >>>> Secondary (third party) downloads: >>>> >>>> - LiveCD - this hasn't been updated since 9.6 in December 2016. It >>>> should be removed. >>>> >>>> - 2UDA - This hasn't been updated since May 2018, and is currently >>>> carrying 11beta1, 10.4, 9.6.9 and 9.5.13. I think this should be removed. >>>> >>> >>> I know there is an effort in the works to accommodate Postgres Installer >>> from 2ndQuadrant in the Downloads section somewhere. That is one reason >>> 2UDA hasn't been updated. Perhaps we can redirect the 2UDA traffic to >>> Postgres Installer till we figure out how to restructure the Downloads >>> section? >>> >> >> I didn't hear back anything on this suggestion. I can get the redirect >> added quite quickly if there are no objections. >> > > No, because as I mentioned in my original email, I went on leave. I'm > still working through my backlog. > I understand. I didn't mean my comment to be directed at you. > > The PostgreSQL installers and 2UDA are different things and should be > treated on their own merits in my opinion. We should not have links for one > thing that point to something that is obviously quite different. > I think that makes sense. Perhaps we should consider changing the text to better suit Postgres Installer rather than 2UDA here. Separate FYI, 2ndQuadrant had restarted efforts on 2UDA anyways and will be making updated packages available before the end of next week. > > -- > Dave Page > Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com > Twitter: @pgsnake > > EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com > The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company > --000000000000a460980588d79667 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


=
On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 4:34 PM Dave = Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wro= te:


On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 12:30 PM Umair Shahid <= ;umair.shahid@g= mail.com> wrote:


On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 11:49 = AM Umair Shahid <umair.shahid@gmail.com> wrote:


=
On Wed, Ma= y 8, 2019 at 8:14 PM Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
I've just reviewed al= l the download options on the website. A number are out of date or have oth= er issues, so I think we need to have a cleanup:

Primary= downloads:

- postgresql.org packages are up to date.
- EDB installers are up to date.
- BigSQL installers are u= p to date.
- postgres.app is up to date.
- Fink is a re= lease behind on 9.4 through 10, and doesn't carry 11 at all as far as I= can tell.
- MacPorts is up to date.
- The Homebrew lin= k seems to go to a download site which after many clicks gives me the Windo= ws installer from EDB(!). I've fixed that now. The packages appear to b= e a release behind on all supported branches.

Thou= ghts on whether we should make any changes to the Fink and Brew distributio= ns? We used to require that the primary downloads be maintained on our sche= dule, so by rights they should be removed.

Seconda= ry (third party) downloads:

- LiveCD - this hasn&#= 39;t been updated since 9.6 in December 2016. It should be removed.

- 2UDA - This hasn't been updated since May 2018, and= is currently carrying 11beta1, 10.4, 9.6.9 and 9.5.13. I think this should= be removed.

I know there= is an effort in the works to accommodate Postgres Installer from 2ndQuadra= nt in the Downloads section somewhere. That is one reason 2UDA hasn't b= een updated. Perhaps we can redirect the 2UDA traffic to Postgres Installer= till we figure out how to restructure the Downloads section?=C2=A0

I didn't hear back anything = on this suggestion. I can get the redirect added quite quickly if there are= no objections.=C2=A0

No,= because as I mentioned in my original email, I went on leave. I'm stil= l working through my backlog.

=
I understand. I didn't mean my comment to be directed at you.=C2= =A0
=C2=A0

The Postgr= eSQL installers and 2UDA are different things and should be treated on thei= r own merits in my opinion. We should not have links for one thing that poi= nt to something that is obviously quite different.

I think that makes sense. Perhaps we should consi= der changing the text to better suit Postgres Installer rather than 2UDA he= re.=C2=A0

Separate FYI, 2ndQuadrant had restarted = efforts on 2UDA anyways and will be making updated packages available befor= e the end of next week.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
--
Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnak= e

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Compa= ny
--000000000000a460980588d79667--