Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hT8WM-0000uq-RW for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 21 May 2019 17:25:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hT8WL-0002L4-Cs for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 21 May 2019 17:25:49 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hT8WK-0002K9-SH for pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 21 May 2019 17:25:49 +0000 Received: from mail-it1-x12e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::12e]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hT8WI-0005JI-1b for pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 21 May 2019 17:25:47 +0000 Received: by mail-it1-x12e.google.com with SMTP id h20so3837844itk.4 for ; Tue, 21 May 2019 10:25:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Wv4aCgDHmLgbJsX/g0Wt/TvB3OSfacEXukEqGtjd2CY=; b=YVxWkOpwxaVQYCfm+ZGRjG5PRs+zJsjvKJFqNpta8W/0KRLzhmN+PJOys3Fz/gCkyB 1yIOCu7dfoFD2nttsIMa3D/3ooZnLMfrekUorVKXLGp16qUrsiJozQFcCke3/PwPUOmu Yb3jVXCQ6ObocNBBbXV+fSvtxcAIGjMwK594ot253A7UFfFXcQJkkAniKXfGhn3GLWrK +SJ90asYHOcvY8yMIUVPW72nc2QLnAnFXWJomAe+ligKkVTFhgCPNkPDTz6rSRm1I09m xERUxcTdJuOjjSKAeXVTG+3GNTXyxuSEDlLZ3H7IUdJofBN5ilRjDOc04OO/dR32wzuZ LdFw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Wv4aCgDHmLgbJsX/g0Wt/TvB3OSfacEXukEqGtjd2CY=; b=O2s1zhDCf8hotMp71wqwP8mW/PeuGgDsFRdFUdmGs1091kifl37tUiOvn3bY/fJZ8l sWeVtelyy8n6yVps8MAwKNPXbt6Rkqth1HwRd/YiT291hKzgY03Lek0xJ2yeWETTDYC5 fTr3cEYFusGKreDQQXuV8bEfms+9N0ezr/gmhFCTuhlqFY1nvI570mCzt+tgLQdHcUfk mzfgJndrNOYsiXoYa3ag1kVzxeogAEHbA5pvWh4hTCX1oMMfxIJc9K2w3aTWYVbV4fqv 9tisIwfJvJPvFGo4N7mpESCDR3nq35KBps+E5twcaBE529ogASBP4hkpwTkikBH4z2+M qY5w== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXPAJylIMqA6Vk7jzQgEZbTEWyVSEyO+cDaKuFYOVaj0CiGgnOl Hiu+FkIxChhPDAhvRKNHB6WxhfqxXHQgc4tW7ns= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyKjesFNg+6MfI8gRi1dUyV+8S09B23kwKHYEm8lTb+EQDW7qwBMt32mNsYWiNdJCtZdlJ6dcx5z5LO5OiQk6E= X-Received: by 2002:a24:1dce:: with SMTP id 197mr5056114itj.16.1558459545096; Tue, 21 May 2019 10:25:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Umair Shahid Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 22:25:33 +0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Cleaning up the Download options To: Dave Page Cc: PostgreSQL WWW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009518d10589692367" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --0000000000009518d10589692367 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 4:46 PM Umair Shahid wrote: > > > On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 4:34 PM Dave Page wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 12:30 PM Umair Shahid >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 11:49 AM Umair Shahid >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 8:14 PM Dave Page wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've just reviewed all the download options on the website. A number >>>>> are out of date or have other issues, so I think we need to have a cleanup: >>>>> >>>>> Primary downloads: >>>>> >>>>> - postgresql.org packages are up to date. >>>>> - EDB installers are up to date. >>>>> - BigSQL installers are up to date. >>>>> - postgres.app is up to date. >>>>> - Fink is a release behind on 9.4 through 10, and doesn't carry 11 at >>>>> all as far as I can tell. >>>>> - MacPorts is up to date. >>>>> - The Homebrew link seems to go to a download site which after many >>>>> clicks gives me the Windows installer from EDB(!). I've fixed that now. The >>>>> packages appear to be a release behind on all supported branches. >>>>> >>>>> Thoughts on whether we should make any changes to the Fink and Brew >>>>> distributions? We used to require that the primary downloads be maintained >>>>> on our schedule, so by rights they should be removed. >>>>> >>>>> Secondary (third party) downloads: >>>>> >>>>> - LiveCD - this hasn't been updated since 9.6 in December 2016. It >>>>> should be removed. >>>>> >>>>> - 2UDA - This hasn't been updated since May 2018, and is currently >>>>> carrying 11beta1, 10.4, 9.6.9 and 9.5.13. I think this should be removed. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I know there is an effort in the works to accommodate Postgres >>>> Installer from 2ndQuadrant in the Downloads section somewhere. That is one >>>> reason 2UDA hasn't been updated. Perhaps we can redirect the 2UDA traffic >>>> to Postgres Installer till we figure out how to restructure the Downloads >>>> section? >>>> >>> >>> I didn't hear back anything on this suggestion. I can get the redirect >>> added quite quickly if there are no objections. >>> >> >> No, because as I mentioned in my original email, I went on leave. I'm >> still working through my backlog. >> > > I understand. I didn't mean my comment to be directed at you. > > >> >> The PostgreSQL installers and 2UDA are different things and should be >> treated on their own merits in my opinion. We should not have links for one >> thing that point to something that is obviously quite different. >> > > I think that makes sense. Perhaps we should consider changing the text to > better suit Postgres Installer rather than 2UDA here. > > Separate FYI, 2ndQuadrant had restarted efforts on 2UDA anyways and will > be making updated packages available before the end of next week. > FYI, updated 2UDA packages are now available on the said link. > > >> >> -- >> Dave Page >> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com >> Twitter: @pgsnake >> >> EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com >> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company >> > --0000000000009518d10589692367 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 4:46 PM Umair= Shahid <umair.shahid@gmail.co= m> wrote:


On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 4:34 PM Dave= Page <dpage@pgad= min.org> wrote:


On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 12:30 = PM Umair Shahid <umair.shahid@gmail.com> wrote:


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On Thu, Ma= y 9, 2019 at 11:49 AM Umair Shahid <umair.shahid@gmail.com> wrote:


On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 8:14 PM Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
I'v= e just reviewed all the download options on the website. A number are out o= f date or have other issues, so I think we need to have a cleanup:

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Primary downloads:

- postgresql.org packages are up to dat= e.
- EDB installers are up to date.
- BigSQ= L installers are up to date.
- postgres.app is up to date.
<= div>- Fink is a release behind on 9.4 through 10, and doesn't carry 11 = at all as far as I can tell.
- MacPorts is up to date.
= - The Homebrew link seems to go to a download site which after many clicks = gives me the Windows installer from EDB(!). I've fixed that now. The pa= ckages appear to be a release behind on all supported branches.
<= br>
Thoughts on whether we should make any changes to the Fink an= d Brew distributions? We used to require that the primary downloads be main= tained on our schedule, so by rights they should be removed.

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Secondary (third party) downloads:

- Li= veCD - this hasn't been updated since 9.6 in December 2016. It should b= e removed.

- 2UDA - This hasn't been updated s= ince May 2018, and is currently carrying 11beta1, 10.4, 9.6.9 and 9.5.13. I= think this should be removed.

I know there is an effort in the works to accommodate Postgres Instal= ler from 2ndQuadrant in the Downloads section somewhere. That is one reason= 2UDA hasn't been updated. Perhaps we can redirect the 2UDA traffic to = Postgres Installer till we figure out how to restructure the Downloads sect= ion?=C2=A0

I didn't h= ear back anything on this suggestion. I can get the redirect added quite qu= ickly if there are no objections.=C2=A0
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No, because as I mentioned in my original email, I went on l= eave. I'm still working through my backlog.

I understand. I didn't mean my comment to be dir= ected at you.=C2=A0
=C2=A0

The PostgreSQL installers and 2UDA are different things and should be= treated on their own merits in my opinion. We should not have links for on= e thing that point to something that is obviously quite different.

I think that makes sense. Perhaps= we should consider changing the text to better suit Postgres Installer rat= her than 2UDA here.=C2=A0

Separate FYI, 2ndQuadran= t had restarted efforts on 2UDA anyways and will be making updated packages= available before the end of next week.=C2=A0

FYI, updated 2UDA packages are now available on the sa= id link.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
--
Dave = Page
Blog: htt= p://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: <= a href=3D"http://www.enterprisedb.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.enterpr= isedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
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