Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1vA3uv-00D9om-N3 for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 18 Oct 2025 10:12:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1vA3us-007SxK-Hj for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 18 Oct 2025 10:12:01 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1vA3us-007Sx7-8h for pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 18 Oct 2025 10:12:01 +0000 Received: from mail-il1-x12a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::12a]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vA3uo-002sVW-2X for pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 18 Oct 2025 10:12:00 +0000 Received: by mail-il1-x12a.google.com with SMTP id e9e14a558f8ab-4308afd43f0so437435ab.0 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2025 03:11:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20230601; t=1760782317; x=1761387117; darn=lists.postgresql.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=9Ab6an5afNr0CrRHxDcNdq5TbSzFkyvnNlea6rM6bX0=; b=SfOfl7KGNYnp6dYoIRGFDuG0p1BJf/fp8VYpSw2ccsKc4L48npuJ3LH0e7U4SAohGG kbzqwh0tvzgHjxfEA68s1L/NvBcRPg2r6jahjKEFObFuTcITClpXLWyM4NV4ylobDofT hlVGySQOu3tz/ONYjuCsgoTxfNZ2u2F4ZOuefLULH6s7W+S30gYj+sd9KxHHnHpgFX6B pm4JnqaMNUaNwQ5NRuneW547bpyoRwcqlEzrXWuDhBmFyZbrNvUdQL3IYqtKvhwB4JM7 yJUG2TuVuCGDds+xRySQ3CDcMQmg8lwSWvOsYraPZk7N/J5mUdYcDma2zdmV4mGDTCdQ I0DA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1760782317; x=1761387117; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=9Ab6an5afNr0CrRHxDcNdq5TbSzFkyvnNlea6rM6bX0=; b=Ba3KA0IsAQpyTZ9CmLNvhlTvavpLQI5C9i/xp/8GkIXNerzkuMXHmySDX2TqCNYGrC nIrY0zTl01JBK29+xLNre3ZGxGMuJg7DHSlFfX91aUT3AcXLLVL3sYVyCAjTH01KZXAV 2MuguBSlZl4jYyABnULMMhZlLqkrGZRodjvN5TRSZUqOBwy1oyUoFUgHbGfxeniC6A2T mtHIkphF0GTxY5VapBVQd9Mx9s1Mmj+C2XAoZW5c7onXcrkHXtzd7ugGdZ8uLU4Gs1Lh bSLlKkOz8o0UBDXDNS4JI1fxlfWwdROosxyaFHUMJcmRIWlfBdfP+dagk+lhhvdgk8+e xobg== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCXEl1fFXTPdGWPoctohkVaab5gZxgT002RYrXMtjR/3qjjnWzox7tWcjayJYApbobdU81ZLanHunE0=@lists.postgresql.org X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzigDUTROFrONCVTRoDdcCpAFn+NKYXXhydPsyux5v/N+LMle0a CO9n4PR2wEcetFPx0Z/k8eT5X7BU9LNdVZkcFlKtkp4yGAV0D2ecgCw+PGQGFLV3dOh3ul5k5Qq +u3J4cY17DATLA6a7M/7sBwggJtNhgCwHf7mqFk2c X-Gm-Gg: ASbGnctC8mEIS60RsaBzr/opYZhCZl77Z97DzMbIz+ap5Cr6+3G27XHRyotlTj1nzp/ tKpvOXMDskcF2jangwPENzTWSQTaejuxtjwhTtwOdzybbcJ9L/ahxLnE6SVgDFDDej/1+6M7QaT MRuqcJdGiYd8KUUd0mRh9WlPz0cg/oa/iFg1ZcbDy9HuCO1VYyLtFjxgMXyI+L8h7x/3P+Bom7f U5sQhc1sgjxcG9LuYCM4riOSSvQVFNCy8BYVNXQ9fsZu24yUaEPqiRcLcj4cT93dx0ZS/gDbUQX 7jyXtYRjWdLiUzczTw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IExEqshNYWjxmb8ycwKLWlk8FfWkVuBsu0LwDDPC95fsVmJ3IuRfDhZX2BC0vOfD1rd/kZ44R2id4Pkv1GTWO4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:622a:98e:b0:4b7:aa51:116a with SMTP id d75a77b69052e-4e882e104abmr28339281cf.4.1760782316683; Sat, 18 Oct 2025 03:11:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <190A13D4-022B-4323-B30D-027B0D931DAF@hellug.gr> In-Reply-To: From: Hannu Krosing Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2025 12:11:44 +0200 X-Gm-Features: AS18NWBRkFXM0DLmSPl8ub80avrBBSZu_0Kcac9mrO1IIVcbe0rCeVEOxc8adPc Message-ID: Subject: Re: PostgreSQL Contributor levels To: Corey Huinker Cc: Laurenz Albe , Cornelia Biacsics , pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org, Jimmy Angelakos , Christoph Berg , PostgreSQL Contributors Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 1:36=E2=80=AFAM Corey Huinker wrote: > I recall a few years ago there was a debate about one contributor being m= oved from Major Contributor to regular Contributor. Adding new levels will = ultimately create more such debates, and we will need to be ready for that. And I guess in some cases such contributors would rather be known as "Former Major Contributor" :) And let's also remind ourselves of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law - "When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure".