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* Additional links for the "Community" page @ 2022-01-07 10:24 Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum @ 2022-01-07 10:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: [email protected] Hello, attached is a small patch with additional links for the "External Resources" section on the postgresql.org "Community" website. The one link there is a bit lonely. All links are up for discussion, and I don't think any of them is somehow biased towards specific companies. And of course if you have more resources, please post them here as well. Regards, -- Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum German PostgreSQL User Group European PostgreSQL User Group - Board of Directors Volunteer Regional Contact, Germany - PostgreSQL Project Attachments: [text/x-patch] community-resources2.diff (860B, 3-community-resources2.diff) download | inline diff: diff --git a/templates/core/community.html b/templates/core/community.html index ef94716e..7fc7f28e 100644 --- a/templates/core/community.html +++ b/templates/core/community.html @@ -45,6 +45,12 @@ <ul> <li><a href="https://www.pg-forum.de/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">pg-forum.de</a>, a German PostgreSQL forum.</li> </ul> + <ul> + <li><a href="https://www.interdb.jp/pg/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">The Internals of PostgreSQL</a></li> + </ul> + <ul> + <li><a href="https://dba.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/postgresql" target="_blank" rel="noopener">PostgreSQL related questions</a> on Stack Exchange</li> + </ul> <p> Please send appropriate links to <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> for possible inclusion on this page. </p> ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Additional links for the "Community" page @ 2022-02-08 02:18 Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]> parent: Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Jonathan S. Katz @ 2022-02-08 02:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum <[email protected]>; [email protected] On 1/7/22 5:24 AM, Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum wrote: > > Hello, > > attached is a small patch with additional links for the "External Resources" > section on the postgresql.org <http://postgresql.org; "Community" > website. The one link there is > a bit lonely. > > All links are up for discussion, and I don't think any of them is somehow > biased towards specific companies. > > And of course if you have more resources, please post them here as we I think the "Internals of PostgreSQL" would be good on the "Tutorials & Other Resources"[1] page, as IMV it's a pretty thorough tutorial on the internals of PostgreSQL. For Stack Exchange, if we linked to it from anywhere it would be the support page[2], but that would effectively mean we're endorsing it as an area for community support. The support resources listed are all things we either have community oversight over or maintain a directory of. Thanks, Jonathan [1] https://www.postgresql.org/docs/online-resources/ [2] https://www.postgresql.org/support/ Attachments: [application/pgp-signature] OpenPGP_signature (840B, 2-OpenPGP_signature) download ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Additional links for the "Community" page @ 2022-02-08 02:26 Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum <[email protected]> parent: Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum @ 2022-02-08 02:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]>; [email protected] On 08/02/2022 03:18, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: > On 1/7/22 5:24 AM, Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> attached is a small patch with additional links for the "External >> Resources" >> section on the postgresql.org <http://postgresql.org; "Community" >> website. The one link there is >> a bit lonely. >> >> All links are up for discussion, and I don't think any of them is >> somehow >> biased towards specific companies. >> >> And of course if you have more resources, please post them here as we > > I think the "Internals of PostgreSQL" would be good on the "Tutorials > & Other Resources"[1] page, as IMV it's a pretty thorough tutorial on > the internals of PostgreSQL. > > For Stack Exchange, if we linked to it from anywhere it would be the > support page[2], but that would effectively mean we're endorsing it as > an area for community support. The support resources listed are all > things we either have community oversight over or maintain a directory > of. The community has no oversight over the one existing link there either. It says "External Resources", and maybe it deserves an additional note that the listed resources are not associated with the community. Something like: The resources listed here are not endorsed or maintained by the PostgreSQL Community. Please refer any questions to the website owner. Regards, -- Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum German PostgreSQL User Group European PostgreSQL User Group - Board of Directors Volunteer Regional Contact, Germany - PostgreSQL Project ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Additional links for the "Community" page @ 2022-02-08 09:38 Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> parent: Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Daniel Gustafsson @ 2022-02-08 09:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum <[email protected]>; +Cc: Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL WWW <[email protected]> > On 8 Feb 2022, at 03:26, Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 08/02/2022 03:18, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: >> On 1/7/22 5:24 AM, Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> attached is a small patch with additional links for the "External Resources" >>> section on the postgresql.org <http://postgresql.org; "Community" website. The one link there is >>> a bit lonely. >>> >>> All links are up for discussion, and I don't think any of them is somehow >>> biased towards specific companies. >>> >>> And of course if you have more resources, please post them here as we >> >> I think the "Internals of PostgreSQL" would be good on the "Tutorials & Other Resources"[1] page, as IMV it's a pretty thorough tutorial on the internals of PostgreSQL. >> >> For Stack Exchange, if we linked to it from anywhere it would be the support page[2], but that would effectively mean we're endorsing it as an area for community support. The support resources listed are all things we either have community oversight over or maintain a directory of. > > The community has no oversight over the one existing link there either. > It says "External Resources", and maybe it deserves an additional note > that the listed resources are not associated with the community. > Something like: > > The resources listed here are not endorsed or maintained by the > PostgreSQL Community. Please refer any questions to the website owner. That one link is below the fold on my laptop so I didn't even see it, I had to go hunting to even see the area of discussion. If we are going to have a curated set of links (which I personally question the value of), wouldn't it be better if they were submitted in the same/similar fashion as professional services etc and subject to moderation by the pgweb moderators? -- Daniel Gustafsson https://vmware.com/ ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Additional links for the "Community" page @ 2022-02-08 20:25 Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]> parent: Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Jonathan S. Katz @ 2022-02-08 20:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>; Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum <[email protected]>; +Cc: PostgreSQL WWW <[email protected]> On 2/8/22 4:38 AM, Daniel Gustafsson wrote: >> On 8 Feb 2022, at 03:26, Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On 08/02/2022 03:18, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: >>> On 1/7/22 5:24 AM, Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> attached is a small patch with additional links for the "External Resources" >>>> section on the postgresql.org <http://postgresql.org; "Community" website. The one link there is >>>> a bit lonely. >>>> >>>> All links are up for discussion, and I don't think any of them is somehow >>>> biased towards specific companies. >>>> >>>> And of course if you have more resources, please post them here as we >>> >>> I think the "Internals of PostgreSQL" would be good on the "Tutorials & Other Resources"[1] page, as IMV it's a pretty thorough tutorial on the internals of PostgreSQL. >>> >>> For Stack Exchange, if we linked to it from anywhere it would be the support page[2], but that would effectively mean we're endorsing it as an area for community support. The support resources listed are all things we either have community oversight over or maintain a directory of. >> >> The community has no oversight over the one existing link there either. >> It says "External Resources", and maybe it deserves an additional note >> that the listed resources are not associated with the community. >> Something like: >> >> The resources listed here are not endorsed or maintained by the >> PostgreSQL Community. Please refer any questions to the website owner. > > That one link is below the fold on my laptop so I didn't even see it, I had to > go hunting to even see the area of discussion. > > If we are going to have a curated set of links (which I personally question the > value of), wouldn't it be better if they were submitted in the same/similar > fashion as professional services etc and subject to moderation by the pgweb > moderators? This comes up so infrequently at the moment that I don't know if it's worth adding additional machinery at the moment. It's not a nuisance to administrate. However, I think it'd be a good exercise to attempt writing a policy around what gets listed on the "Tutorials / External Resources" page. The current collective wisdom is that these are all links that provide free resources for learning PostgreSQL, either through written content, exercises, or both. The only one that requires signup is Schemaverse, given the nature of its instruction through a game, but I think we'd want to avoid services that are asking for signups, or at least paywalls. Under those general guidelines, I believe "Internals of PostgreSQL" qualifies for the Tutorials page. If this sounds like a good path forward, I can draft up a policy proposal for discussion. Jonathan Attachments: [application/pgp-signature] OpenPGP_signature (840B, 2-OpenPGP_signature) download ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Additional links for the "Community" page @ 2022-02-08 21:11 Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum <[email protected]> parent: Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum @ 2022-02-08 21:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>; +Cc: Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL WWW <[email protected]> On 08/02/2022 10:38, Daniel Gustafsson wrote: >> On 8 Feb 2022, at 03:26, Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On 08/02/2022 03:18, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: >>> On 1/7/22 5:24 AM, Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> attached is a small patch with additional links for the "External Resources" >>>> section on the postgresql.org <http://postgresql.org; "Community" website. The one link there is >>>> a bit lonely. >>>> >>>> All links are up for discussion, and I don't think any of them is somehow >>>> biased towards specific companies. >>>> >>>> And of course if you have more resources, please post them here as we >>> I think the "Internals of PostgreSQL" would be good on the "Tutorials & Other Resources"[1] page, as IMV it's a pretty thorough tutorial on the internals of PostgreSQL. >>> >>> For Stack Exchange, if we linked to it from anywhere it would be the support page[2], but that would effectively mean we're endorsing it as an area for community support. The support resources listed are all things we either have community oversight over or maintain a directory of. >> The community has no oversight over the one existing link there either. >> It says "External Resources", and maybe it deserves an additional note >> that the listed resources are not associated with the community. >> Something like: >> >> The resources listed here are not endorsed or maintained by the >> PostgreSQL Community. Please refer any questions to the website owner. > That one link is below the fold on my laptop so I didn't even see it, I had to > go hunting to even see the area of discussion. It looked lonely, and I stumbled over it a few times, that's why I submitted a bit of additional content for it. > If we are going to have a curated set of links (which I personally question the > value of), wouldn't it be better if they were submitted in the same/similar > fashion as professional services etc and subject to moderation by the pgweb > moderators? We can only have it one way. Either remove the lonely link there, or add more content which fits roughly what Jonathan proposes. -- Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum German PostgreSQL User Group European PostgreSQL User Group - Board of Directors Volunteer Regional Contact, Germany - PostgreSQL Project ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 6+ messages in thread
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