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Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Alternate PostgreSQL.org Design
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 23:02:32 -0000
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Thread-Topic: [pgsql-advocacy] [pgsql-www] Alternate PostgreSQL.org Design
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From: "Dave Page" <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk>
To: "Gavin M. Roy" <gmr@ehpg.net>,
	"Bruce Momjian" <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Cc: "Alexey Borzov" <borz_off@cs.msu.su>,
	"Josh Berkus" <josh@agliodbs.com>, <pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org>,
	"Omar Kilani" <omar@tinysofa.org>, <pgsql-www@postgresql.org>

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org=20
> [mailto:pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Gavin M. Roy
> Sent: 12 November 2004 22:45
> To: Bruce Momjian
> Cc: Alexey Borzov; Josh Berkus;=20
> pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org; Omar Kilani; pgsql-www@postgresql.org
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [pgsql-www] Alternate=20
> PostgreSQL.org Design
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> If I felt like there was a way to help get the site done that=20
> I could truly contribute to, other than offering opinions on=20
> direction and what not, I would be there doing it.=20

Have you checked the todo list? Those are the things we need to do in
the short term if you can contribute.

I realise I'm probably one of the people you accuse of being rude and
shooting down ideas (and if I have been rude to anyone, please excuse me
- it was most certainly unintentional), but please see it from my point
of view. Periodically we get a barrage of message criticising the work
we put in from people who haven't taken the time to review the archives
of the list, or look at the cvs/todo/commit messages etc. It's extremely
disheartening to those of us that do give *many* hours of our time each
week, especially when 95% of those people complaining won't actually
help out.=20

As one of the oldest -www members, I have tried to lead as much as I
can, and each time I try to focus people on getting the job done, I get
flamed for not listening to different ideas about tasks we have already
discussed or even done. So, here's the current plan again:

1) Finish the new website, specifically the items on the todo list.
2) Make the new website live.
3a) Merge in the advocacy and developer websites.
3b) Review/update/sanitise all content.

In addition to which, I've have suggested to a number of volunteers that
a good standalone project would be a good replacement CMS for techdocs.

Regards, Dave