X-Original-To: pgsql-advocacy-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3764ED1B918 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:16:34 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 98475-03 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:16:32 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail1.ihs.com (mail1.ihs.com [170.207.70.222]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED51CD1BA90 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:16:28 -0300 (ADT) Received: from css120.ihs.com (css120.ihs.com [170.207.105.120]) by mail1.ihs.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i3SJGEBh020790; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:16:15 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:16:11 -0600 (MDT) From: "scott.marlowe" To: Greg Sabino Mullane Cc: Subject: Re: What can we learn from MySQL? In-Reply-To: <429d4f7f1cf595afd3922ab6d0c5fc64@biglumber.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-IHS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-IHS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-IHS-MailScanner-Envelope-Sender: scott.marlowe@ihs.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200404/283 X-Sequence-Number: 4255 On Wed, 28 Apr 2004, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > I'm gonna disagree here. I think that not having a postgresql inc to go > > to means that by the time postgresql becomes ubiquitous, it will be like > > apache. no company behind it, every company using it. > > That's not entirely accurate. Apache has had lots of help from IBM, as well > as a few other very large companies. but no one company drove the development, and all development was handled by the apache group, which is built VERY much like the postgresql global development group. > > No need for a postgresql inc to do that, just time, good code, and > > knowledgable DBAs choosing it more and more often. > > Sorry, but technical prowess alone is no recipe for success in today's > marketplace. Things are more complex than that. Marketplace? like where you sell things? PostgreSQL is free, it competes outside of the bounds of the "marketplace". Since it doesn't have to make money to survive, it has a different definition of success, and that is, to me, that the people who use it and code it find it to be best for their uses. If others join in and use it or hack on it, that's great, but postgresql definitely has enough critical mass to continue for many years to come with little or no marketing. Personally, I don't care if postgresql captures 1% of the market of 99% of the market, as long as it remains the solid, reliable dbms engine it is. It's success is measured in the quality of its code, not the number of users.