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About your requirements, yes we do not have all sub versions and we have no= t updated old versions recently. However, we have a Jenkins environment available in our BullFreeware lab th= at we are using already for several other packages, smaller and simpler tha= n PostgreSQL. This Jenkins environment automatically checks for new version= or new sub-version, downloads them, does appropriate changes, runs build a= nd tests, and then publishes on our Web-site. So I think that it should not be very difficult for us to finalize the chan= ges required to enable PostgreSQL versions (9, 10, 11, 12, 13 and soon 14, = if I understand well) to be automatically built by our Jenkins as soon as t= hey are made available by the PostgreSQL community. For versions 11, 12, 13, and soon 14, we have improved our PostgreSQL RPM .= spec file so that few more work is required. For version 9 and 10, we'll have to back port some changes we did recently,= but it's not rocket science. Just let me know if v9 and v10 are required t= o be maintained by us. Regards/Cordialement, Tony Reix tony.reix@atos.net ATOS / Bull SAS ATOS Expert IBM-Bull Cooperation Project: Architect & OpenSource Technical Leader 1, rue de Provence - 38432 ECHIROLLES - FRANCE www.atos.net ________________________________ De : Jonathan S. Katz Envoy=E9 : mardi 7 septembre 2021 17:07 =C0 : Dave Page ; Daniel Gustafsson Cc : REIX, Tony ; pgsql-www@postgresql.org Objet : Re: Add AIX on the PostgreSQL Download page On 9/7/21 10:57 AM, Dave Page wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 3:26 PM Daniel Gustafsson > wrote: > > > On 7 Sep 2021, at 16:10, Jonathan S. Katz > wrote: > > I'd be more open to this if the packages themselves were hosted on > > community infrastructure and were consistent with the rest of the > > packaging projects. > > That seems a high bar to cross given that we don=92t host macOS, > Windows and the > BSD=92s today but link to those. > > > I agree. It doesn't mean we need to continue to exacerbate the situation by linking to downloads that we have little control over. For example, what happens when the external downloads are unavailable? We had a recent incident where this exact scenario happened. There are now some reporting mechanisms in place to handle that scenario, but ultimately it comes back to "PostgreSQL is unavailable for download." > > Right now I'm -1 on this; additionally, I'm > > generally -1 to adding more additional offsite links to downloads. > > Unrelated but semi-related, if we don=92t want new links we should > probably > remove the Solaris download link which doesn=92t even link to downloa= dable > packages. > > > +1 IIRC we had left that up so we could sunset it and provide "forwarding information." Given it's been ~1 year, we could likely remove it. Jonathan --_000_VI1PR02MB63975B0FE2D39993AFAF4E7586D39VI1PR02MB6397eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi

Thanks for you comments.
About your requirements, yes we do not have all sub versions and we have no= t updated old versions recently.

However, we have a Jenkins environment available in our BullFreeware lab th= at we are using already for several other packages, smaller and simpler tha= n PostgreSQL. This Jenkins environment automatically checks for new version= or new sub-version, downloads them, does appropriate changes, runs build and tests, and then publishes on our = Web-site.

So I think that it should not be very difficult for us to finalize the chan= ges required to enable PostgreSQL versions (9, 10, 11, 12, 13 and soon 14, = if I understand well) to be automatically built by our Jenkins as soon as t= hey are made available by the PostgreSQL community.
For versions 11, 12, 13, and soon 14, we have improved our PostgreSQL RPM .= spec file so that few more work is required.
For version 9 and 10, we'll have to back port some changes we did recently,= but it's not rocket science. Just let me know if v9 and v10 are required t= o be maintained by us.

Regards= /Cordialement,

Tony Reix

tony.reix@atos.net

ATOS / Bull SAS
ATOS Expert
IBM-Bull Cooperation Project: Architect & OpenSource Technical Lea= der
1, rue = de Provence - 38432 ECHIROLLES - FRANCE
De : Jonathan S. Katz <j= katz@postgresql.org>
Envoy=E9 : mardi 7 septembre 2021 17:07
=C0 : Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>; Daniel Gustafsson <dan= iel@yesql.se>
Cc : REIX, Tony <tony.reix@atos.net>; pgsql-www@postgresq= l.org <pgsql-www@postgresql.org>
Objet : Re: Add AIX on the PostgreSQL Download page
 
On 9/7/21 10:57 AM, Dave Page wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 3:26 PM Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se > <mailto:daniel@yesql.se>&= gt; wrote:
>
>     > On 7 Sep 2021, at 16:10, Jonathan S. Katz= <jkatz@postgresql.org
>     <ma= ilto:jkatz@postgresql.org>> wrote:

>     > I'd be more open to this if the packages = themselves were hosted on
>     > community infrastructure and were consist= ent with the rest of the
>     > packaging projects.
>
>     That seems a high bar to cross given that we d= on=92t host macOS,
>     Windows and the
>     BSD=92s today but link to those.
>
>
> I agree.

It doesn't mean we need to continue to exacerbate the situation by
linking to downloads that we have little control over.

For example, what happens when the external downloads are unavailable?
We had a recent incident where this exact scenario happened. There are
now some reporting mechanisms in place to handle that scenario, but
ultimately it comes back to "PostgreSQL is unavailable for download.&q= uot;

>     > Right now I'm -1 on this; additionally, I= 'm
>     > generally -1 to adding more additional of= fsite links to downloads.
>
>     Unrelated but semi-related, if we don=92t want= new links we should
>     probably
>     remove the Solaris download link which doesn= =92t even link to downloadable
>     packages.
>
>
> +1

IIRC we had left that up so we could sunset it and provide "forwarding=
information." Given it's been ~1 year, we could likely remove it.

Jonathan

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