X-Original-To: pgsql-www-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1912A32A07A for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:35:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 46469-09 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:35:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from biglumber.com (biglumber.com [207.228.252.42]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 42A3F32A06C for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:35:51 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 3536 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2004 11:35:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (207.228.252.42) by 0 with SMTP; 30 Sep 2004 11:35:50 -0000 From: "Greg Sabino Mullane" To: pgsql-www@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Infrastructure TODO list X-PGP-Key: 2529 DF6A B8F7 9407 E944 45B4 BC9B 9067 1496 4AC8 X-Request-PGP: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?pk=2529DF6AB8F79407E94445B4BC9B906714964AC8 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:35:50 -0000 X-Mailer: JoyMail 1.48 Message-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200409/270 X-Sequence-Number: 5340 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > As someone else pointed out (was it Tom?), all the > uninformed debating here just slows things down. Huh? How can putting a new website in place possibly move any slower than it has? I first complained about specific problems with the website over two years ago! The answer always seems to be "well, we have a new version that is about to go in place any day now" I'm also not sure why debate needs to be perceived as a bad thing - this is an open-source project, and one would hope that applies to the whole project: DNS, web site, mailing lists, etc. > Now much as I like a good debate, can we please at least stop > going over old ground That's the problem, isn't it - this is old ground. That's why Bruce raised the thread in the fiest place - after all these years, we still seem to be spinning our wheels. Problems with the site tend to be a) not noticed right away, and b) fixed slowly if at all. People reporting problems or offering suggestions are often met with hostility and rudeness. The -www list was a secret and exclusive club (although it is better now). - -- Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 200409300734 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFBW+/PvJuQZxSWSsgRAgavAJ0V0y0rw8srOrx1ZapsZdJro9bLPwCfeT/5 OdG95I9y1mwyFH/ZDFR+Rok= =j3Vb -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----