X-Original-To: pgsql-advocacy-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23609D1E2A2 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 00:15:08 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 45883-10 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 00:14:39 -0300 (ADT) Received: from biglumber.com (biglumber.com [207.228.252.42]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2FD1D1B892 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:30:19 -0300 (ADT) Received: (qmail 17708 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2004 01:30:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (207.228.252.42) by 0 with SMTP; 29 Apr 2004 01:30:23 -0000 From: "Greg Sabino Mullane" To: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org Subject: Re: What can we learn from MySQL? X-PGP-Key: 2529 DF6A B8F7 9407 E944 45B4 BC9B 9067 1496 4AC8 X-Request-PGP: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?pk=2529DF6AB8F79407E94445B4BC9B906714964AC8 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 01:30:23 -0000 X-Mailer: JoyMail 1.47 Message-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200404/289 X-Sequence-Number: 4261 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > Since it doesn't have to make money to survive, it has a different > definition of success, and that is, to me, that the people who use > it and code it find it to be best for their uses. If others join > in and use it or hack on it, that's great, but postgresql definitely > has enough critical mass to continue for many years to come with > little or no marketing. Personally, I don't care if postgresql > captures 1% of the market of 99% of the market, as long as it remains > the solid, reliable dbms engine it is. I care. More market share equals more jobs, which equals more people working on the project. It's all well and good to treat Postgres as an academic exercise, but at some point the work needs to be applied to real world stuff. We are competing with real-world, commercial projects right now, and the success of how well we do will directly impact this project. Do you think that Red Hat will continue to employ Tom Lane if Postgres fades away into a footnote and something else becomes the database of choice for Red Hat? Do you realize that every time a company chooses us, jobs are created for people who use, test, and even develop PostgreSQL? I also want to see PostgreSQL succeed in the marketplace because I am frankly embarrassed that MySQL is considered the "open source database." The open source community can do a lot better than that. Not only is Postgres technically superior, but we are now (IMO) morally superior, as we don't spread FUD and change our license mid-stream in an attempt to make money. > It's success is measured in the quality of its code, not the > number of users. Success is measured in constant improvement and growth. I don't want PostgreSQL to be the best database system around that nobody uses. - -- Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 200404282124 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFAkFr3vJuQZxSWSsgRAk8IAJ96vN6VuI2dMWmfxWB+yG/CrWTkogCgqBgo rsUJMoM6oPEJ83ixpaXdvTo= =zH3B -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----