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Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 19:15:25 -0300
From: "Guido Barosio" <gbarosio@gmail.com>
To: "Simon Riggs" <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Subject: Re: replace training blurb with upcoming pug meetings?
Cc: "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>,
	"Magnus Hagander" <magnus@hagander.net>,
	"Robert Treat" <xzilla@users.sourceforge.net>, pgsql-www@postgresql.org
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"Shortcuts": seems nasty there, and IMHO too big for a shortcut list.
I am sure that we can find a better place for it!
"Support us": How much support do we receive via this link? :s

Between both *dialogs* we can create a new place for upcoming pugs, though.

gb.-

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 10:58 -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 19:47 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>> > Robert Treat wrote:
>> > > In an effort to give more visibility to the pugs, one idea that was
>> > > floated around was replacing the training blurb on the main site with
>> > > an "upcoming pugs" section, modeled after the upcoming events.  The
>> > > training blurb would then be changed to a direct link saying "looking
>> > > for training?" (or similar) which would take you to the full training
>> > > page.  There are some logistical issues that would need to be worked
>> > > out to make this happen, but before we go down that path, I wanted to
>> > > get a general consensus on the idea. thoughts?
>> >
>> > Any way we can have both? I agree it's a good idea to get upcoming
>> > pugs, but I'd like to keep the training info somehow.
>>
>> I think it is a matter of deciding the purpose of the space. IMO .Org
>> should be all about community, not all about advertising for commercial
>> providers. That isn't to say we shouldn't help the people who help us
>> (obviously) but it is to say that a PUG should come before CMD, EDB or
>> any other commercial entity listed.
>>
>> That being said, we have a problem in that the front page is remarkably
>> cluttered. It is trying to tell people entirely too much all at once.
>> Something has to give if we are going to add PUGS. Training or Latest
>> News seems the most appropriate.
>
> Yes, it is cluttered, so I think we should scroll down the page and make
> more space for ourselves.
>
> The community includes commercial people too. And the commercial people
> only exist because they are wanted and needed.
>
> The suggestion to have a list of PUGs over training could go the other
> way too. We could say "Want a PUG?". If they do, they'll click. That is
> of course fairly silly, but then so is "Want training?", which hides
> anything interesting and unusual and effectively kills it. If we do that
> I may as well pack up and just offer one course called "Training".
>
> People want a way to scan all things that might be of interest, not one
> category or another. Yes, we need a way to expand the PUGs.
>
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