Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7k2E-0000ih-Gc for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 10:02:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7k2D-0003Jq-Va for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 10:02:50 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7k2D-0003Je-8i; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 10:02:49 +0000 Received: from acidenitrix.villemain.org ([91.121.90.165]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7k2B-0000gi-9A; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 10:02:48 +0000 Received: from [89.157.243.170] (helo=Dimitris-MacBook-Air.local) by acidenitrix.villemain.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7k2A-0004sU-Dm; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 11:02:46 +0100 From: Dimitri Fontaine To: Dave Page Cc: Andres Freund , Bruce Momjian , Stefan Kaltenbrunner , Josh Berkus , Christoph Berg , Martin Pitt , Magnus Hagander , PostgreSQL WWW , PostgreSQL in Debian , Tom Lane Subject: Re: [pgsql-pkg-debian] Re: We should not transition to apt.postgresql.org until we have a PPA Organization: 2ndQuadrant References: <20130214122643.GF30046@msgid.df7cb.de> <511D2E58.6010705@agliodbs.com> <511D4E61.5050808@kaltenbrunner.cc> <20130216013854.GD12029@momjian.us> <20130218161258.GA16806@alap2.anarazel.de> User-Mail-Address: dimitri@2ndQuadrant.fr Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 11:02:34 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Dave Page's message of "Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:57:13 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-www Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org Dave Page writes: > We should be doing everything we can to make it easy for new users, > whatever their background or experience level, to use PostgreSQL as > they wish. I totally agree with that. And the simplest we could do while being technically correct for PostgreSQL major versionning support, extensions building, debian integration, upgrade paths, automated package building, QA and automated testing is what you know as apt.postgresql.org. When you compare what we have now there to any other offering, please remember to include an upgrade paths discussion. It took years to build and we're far from done still. As Stefan best said it in this thread, one step at a time. Regards, -- Dimitri Fontaine http://2ndQuadrant.fr PostgreSQL : Expertise, Formation et Support -- Sent via pgsql-www mailing list (pgsql-www@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-www