From: maumau307 at gmail.com (MauMau) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 19:21:03 +0900 Subject: [Pljava-dev] Is it safe to use multi-threaded PL/Java in single-threaded postgres process? Message-ID: <30A6B4B499494CED93770BBC4835840C@maumau> Hello, Is PL/Java safe to use in terms of its threading design? I've just asked pgsql-hackers about this and am waiting for response, adding the sentence: "To put the question in other words, is it safe to load a multi-threaded PL library in the single-threaded backend process, if the PL only calls SPI in the main thread?" My understanding is: * PL/Java (pljava.so) is linked with the JNI (Java Native Interface) library, libjvm.so, in JRE. libjvm.so is linked with libpthread.so, because Java VM is multi-threaded. SO, "ldd pljava.so" shows libjvm.so and libpthread.so. pljava.so doesn't seem to be built for multh-threading --- none of -mt, -D_REENTRANT or -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE is specified when building it. * When the application calls Java stored function, pljava.so calls a function in libjvm.so to create a JVM in the backend process, then invokes the user-defined Java method in the main thread. The user-defined Java method calls JDBC methods to access database. The JDBC method calls are translated to backend SPI function calls through JNI. * The main thread can create Java threads using Java Thread API, and those threads can call JDBC methods. However, PL/Java intercepts JDBC method calls and serializes SPI calls. So, only one thread calls SPI functions at a time. I'm wondering if this is the reason why PL/Java is safe for use. What I'm concerned about is whether multi-threaded code (Java VM) can run safely in a single-threaded code (postgres). I cannot point out what can be a particular problem with PL/Java, but in general, the mixture of single-threaded code and multi-threaded one seems to cause trouble around handling errno, memory and file handles/pointers. FYI, JNI specification says that the code called from Java VM should be built for multi-threading as follows. But postgres is not. http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/technotes/guides/jni/spec/design.html#wp9502 [Excerpt] Compiling, Loading and Linking Native Methods Since the Java VM is multithreaded, native libraries should also be compiled and linked with multithread aware native compilers. For example, the -mt flag should be used for C++ code compiled with the Sun Studio compiler. For code complied with the GNU gcc compiler, the flags -D_REENTRANT or -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE should be used. For more information please refer to the native compiler documentation. Regards MauMau