Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lEwfj-0001mT-JU for psycopg@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2021 16:05:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lEwfi-0006GV-Hv for psycopg@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2021 16:05:54 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lEwfi-0006GN-5A for psycopg@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2021 16:05:54 +0000 Received: from mail-qv1-xf32.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::f32]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lEwfb-00084C-0x for psycopg@postgresql.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2021 16:05:53 +0000 Received: by mail-qv1-xf32.google.com with SMTP id s12so1226214qvq.4 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2021 08:05:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hbaspecto-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:in-reply-to:cc:to :references; bh=LF/gTuedPLomcnZPRXrf2E1r4c9ZVksq7x+vaziwg8w=; b=tvS6VgDFwSYNqQ3NRdAYljV8saTujeIKE/ap3OF4N99ca27bZksYnPAi+2UHYksvp9 xMdG8x3xUraUU5E9cj3pLxRIcf93PaBVrSgKxlorxFjiy+zAhH2OVLkNfKgCnc8GkBpV L66+r6jMOsdMj+8TA4PZSfcSn4g0EyRntA+Agm+IztTmUKRermeIKBYd+1LvukVqfoSy Z1Ga8S8I3totULMkfT02H5/5ai2CZ/eNQ9iibUVH3HtefjcPQTLPK6ER46Mbf+1J3UpJ 99s0uJY4pf8L8VPxAcMgSi3kpedeyk2ckCKQSd8jXfc/DEdTTAzSaTnKx0SP+d3QP/pY bkIg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :in-reply-to:cc:to:references; bh=LF/gTuedPLomcnZPRXrf2E1r4c9ZVksq7x+vaziwg8w=; b=QiRHAZUFuMbNNoWtbtP02xJQpfisJ6ydUAZ/hAHDFHGpP19f6bb/OaKZB6TxOF9ahb KvNwO+d76cY0ywe90ft3XrY7775X0sNTGI5QtVB56eAFGcfTgKbpdQeBBKXTtEQDiti0 iG8EtM63hwypAv0FMmhQd7Nd3RZVmT4FAMLQdHJIQ2aaBfylsR2Mw+f+zZZ3YeMeFdWb 5gQWOlGxwdXdPXqLoRuF7GnYr18sQl/Lw7HeDWwlu4HMSdEFr0v4j6eGBEpppqml1jBb OI1ODv2puxEnrVmufuDAzVu5C2+0S6orM3wAflRXI92Hha7ukiVB/j1e4kaNu4ZAxLFq n5ww== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5335y7hGbwu17oG9hVpRzZEN1sg658cpuRi8GI/sUNCzYzJvaNQj Wuex58OhO4h3BgsHiVdewbsNpg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyMCVefCwfPUqCdg3QUs1YspsxvCvzV9dwujMs6PzBSz7f2N+K+Az+9jN36F0gaRBtJqxIC+A== X-Received: by 2002:a0c:9ba4:: with SMTP id o36mr11077137qve.31.1614182745873; Wed, 24 Feb 2021 08:05:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.88.33] (S010624ab81b80ce5.cn.shawcable.net. [70.65.238.181]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b190sm1800563qkg.103.2021.02.24.08.05.44 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Feb 2021 08:05:45 -0800 (PST) From: John Abraham Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_48835CD8-8C05-4946-8FA1-B64542DF0FE5" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.40.0.2.32\)) Subject: Re: License LPGL and commercialization Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2021 09:05:43 -0700 In-Reply-To: Cc: "fog@initd.org" , Daniele Varrazzo , "psycopg@postgresql.org" To: "Hunt, Brian C." References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.40.0.2.32) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_48835CD8-8C05-4946-8FA1-B64542DF0FE5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yeah I'd tell the lawyers to read the LGPL more carefully. Or maybe get = new lawyers who are familiar with the topic.=20 Here's a useful link in plain language, in case your lawyers are having = trouble with legalese :) https://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-not-lgpl.html --=20 John Abraham HBA Specto Incorporated jea@hbaspecto.com 403-232-1060 (unattended during the pandemic) 403-383-8024 (personal cell phone) > On Feb 24, 2021, at 8:57 AM, Daniele Varrazzo = wrote: >=20 > On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 at 16:55, Hunt, Brian C. > wrote: >>=20 >> I have recently been told by outside council (lawyers) that our = organization is unable to use LGPL licensed packages in software we plan = to sell. >=20 > Your lawyer is wrong. >=20 >> Seems to suggest the purpose of the LGPL license is not to prevent = the intended use we have in mind (selling the web app to be hosted = locally at other organizations). Instead it is to prevent other from = building off the drivers and then selling those drivers. >=20 > Correct. You are not forbidden to use psycopg2 in a closed source = program. >=20 > -- Daniele >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_48835CD8-8C05-4946-8FA1-B64542DF0FE5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Yeah = I'd tell the lawyers to read the LGPL more carefully.  Or maybe get = new lawyers who are familiar with the topic. 

Here's a useful link in plain language, = in case your lawyers are having trouble with legalese :) https://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-not-lgpl.html

-- 
John Abraham
HBA Specto = Incorporated
jea@hbaspecto.com
403-232-1060 (unattended = during the pandemic)
403-383-8024 (personal cell = phone)

On Feb 24, 2021, at 8:57 AM, Daniele Varrazzo <daniele.varrazzo@gmail.com> wrote:

On = Wed, 24 Feb 2021 at 16:55, Hunt, Brian C.
<Brian.C.Hunt@osfhealthcare.org> wrote:

I have = recently been told by outside council (lawyers) that our organization is = unable to use LGPL licensed packages in software we plan to sell.

Your lawyer is wrong.

Seems to = suggest the purpose of the LGPL license is not to prevent the intended = use we have in mind (selling the web app to be hosted locally at other = organizations). Instead it is to prevent other from building off the = drivers and then selling those drivers.

Correct. You are not forbidden to use psycopg2 in a closed = source program.

-- Daniele



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