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To: Murtuza Zabuawala <[email protected]>
Cc: Joao De Almeida Pereira <[email protected]>
Cc: Robert Eckhardt <[email protected]>
Cc: pgadmin-hackers <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [pgAdmin4][RM#3055] Allow user to sort the data in View data mode
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 10:38:15 +0100
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Thanks, applied.
On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 6:44 AM, Murtuza Zabuawala <
[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Please find the patch which will change the syntax from requirejs syntax
> to ES6 from previous commit.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Murtuza Zabuawala
> EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 9:13 AM, Murtuza Zabuawala <murtuza.zabuawala@
> enterprisedb.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Joao,
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 11:20 PM, Joao De Almeida Pereira <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Murtuza,
>>> I forgot to mention this in my review........
>>> Do you think we can start using only ES6 instead of keep using requirejs
>>> syntax on new things that we are building?
>>> How much effort do you think it will be?
>>>
>> Yes, we can.
>> Let me try to change the code to use ES6 and I'll send patch.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Like this patch, as an example, do you think it could have been
>>> implemented without using requirejs?
>>>
>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 11:26 AM Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, applied.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Murtuza Zabuawala <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>
>>>>> Please find rebased patch.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Murtuza Zabuawala
>>>>> EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you rebase this please?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 8:19 AM, Murtuza Zabuawala <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please find updated patch with following changes,
>>>>>>> - Combined Filter and Data sorting together same as pgAdmin3.
>>>>>>> - Extracted model into separate file
>>>>>>> - Change the colour of filter button from orange to blue.
>>>>>>> - Updated docs and screenshot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Joao,
>>>>>>> Could you please provide any reference for learning more about
>>>>>>> jasmine test framework?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Murtuza Zabuawala
>>>>>>> EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>>>> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 6:07 AM, Robert Eckhardt <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Murtuza Zabuawala <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 7:06 PM, Robert Eckhardt <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 6:25 AM, Murtuza Zabuawala <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 3:13 PM, Dave Page <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:26 PM, Robert Eckhardt <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 2:07 PM, Joao De Almeida Pereira <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Hackers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Murtuza: The patch codewise looks good. Nice to see that we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are using axios instead of jquery ajax calls and that there is some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coverage for the change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nevertheless the Javascript testing looks a bit slim and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could be improved. Also the DataSorting class could have some other member
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functions like the model validation could be extracted out so that it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easily tested.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Hackers: This was how we tried to test this feature:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 - Started pgAdmin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 - Opened the query tool for a specific server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 - Executed a SQL statment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 - Pressed the column header to try to order, nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happened
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 - Right clicked the column header to see if it was there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the option, nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the behavior that we were expecting, not to have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open Data View and then press the icon that is not even near the grid in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order to sort the column. Is this really the way we want people to use the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grid in pgAdmin? Should it be more intuitive?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have we considered making the grid behave more like excel or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other grids? I think that having the ascending and descending inside the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> column header, we could similarly provide filtering. Something that would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> give users a more intuitive place to look.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Doing the sorting via header clicks is convenient but very
>>>>>>>>>>>> restrictive. How do you specify multiple columns to sort by for example?
>>>>>>>>>>>> The current design allows you to select columns and the sort order as you
>>>>>>>>>>>> see fit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Honestly I'm not sold on my idea, I was just proposing an
>>>>>>>>>> alternative in an effort to start a discussion about the user experience.
>>>>>>>>>> Ideally what I'd like to see, maybe this happened, is some user research.
>>>>>>>>>> When we initial worked on refactoring the results grid we made a bunch of
>>>>>>>>>> changes. One of the things we intended to do was to follow up to see how
>>>>>>>>>> people were using the grid now so that we could better understand how it
>>>>>>>>>> was now being used in order to design and implement features just like
>>>>>>>>>> this. Clearly we haven't gotten there yet.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Another reason we can't use that because w
>>>>>>>>>>> e have already occupied that behaviour for selecting entire
>>>>>>>>>>> column
>>>>>>>>>>> when user clicks on header.
>>>>>>>>>>> As Dave suggested, I will be merging it with filter dialog
>>>>>>>>>>> meaning it will be accessible via direct button on toolbar & keyboard
>>>>>>>>>>> shortcut.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How are users currently interacting with that filter dialog?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> By clicking on the toolbar button as well as keyboard shortcut.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry I wasn't clear. My question was more along the lines of, do
>>>>>>>> we know if people are using the filter functionality? What kind
>>>>>>>> of filters are people using? What do they like about it? What do they wish
>>>>>>>> they could do above and beyond sorting, etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have not done any data gathering from users so I can't comment on
>>>>>>> your queries.
>>>>>>> but a
>>>>>>> s far as I understood from the feature requests that most of the
>>>>>>> users expect to have functionality which will allow then to sort columns as
>>>>>>> it was in pgAdmin3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- Rob
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What I'm suggesting is that we understand how users want to
>>>>>>>>>> interact with their results, be those the results of a query or a table
>>>>>>>>>> view, then we can design something that meets those needs. I agree that
>>>>>>>>>> changing the column selection behavior isn't desirable, however, I also
>>>>>>>>>> feel like providing the best user experience is better than holding onto a
>>>>>>>>>> particular feature implementation.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -- Rob
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave Page
>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dave Page
>>>>>> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>>>>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>>>>
>>>>>> EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>>> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dave Page
>>>> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>>
>>>> EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
--
Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake
EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
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