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From: Akshay Joshi <[email protected]>
To: Anthony DeBarros <[email protected]>
Cc: pgadmin-hackers <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: The new workspace layout
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 10:43:16 +0530
Message-ID: <CANxoLDdEv05h0zMfVhZhYfEM-zpVoq8F7EMKBzGWVFiWJB_xcA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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Thanks, Anthony

We will definitely consider your suggestions for the future v9.1 release

On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 5:38 PM Anthony DeBarros <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Dear Hackers,
>
> I have great respect for your efforts to continuously develop pgAdmin 4,
> and it has certainly come a long way since version 1.0. Not to mention,
> it’s free.  Thank you for all your hard work.
>
> All that said, I think making the new Workspace layout the default in v
> 9.0 was a regression and not an improvement, and already I see issues[1]
> raised[2] from users.
>
> I use pgAdmin and DataGrip every day for writing queries, and I have a
> fundamental issue with the new layout. Having the object explorer in a pane
> to the left of the query editor is a standard setup, and rightly so — it’s
> hard to remember names of tables and columns, and drag-and-drop makes life
> easier. Having a layout that requires me to click another pane and
> disappear the query itself, then click back, is too many steps.
> Autocomplete doesn’t fill the need.
>
> Yes, I understand I can switch to “Classic,” and I’ve done so. But I want
> to be an advocate for newer users and others who are upgrading and won’t
> really understand what’s going on, where in settings to change the layout,
> etc.
>
> A more gentle user experience for this type of change would have been to
> have v 9.0 keep the “Classic” layout as the default and alert users upon
> first launch that a new workspace layout was available — and explain where
> in the settings to make the change. Small popups announcing new features
> are a standard UX feature these days.
>
> That way, people can move on from the familiar to the new and know that
> they can switch back if they’d like. Trust me when I tell you that many,
> many pgAdmin users are students and people new to SQL who need hand-holding
> from time to time.
>
> Thanks for listening,
> Anthony
>
> [1]
> https://github.com/pgadmin-org/pgadmin4/issues/7708#issuecomment-2640296446
> [2] https://github.com/pgadmin-org/pgadmin4/issues/8426
>
>
>

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