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From: richard coleman <[email protected]>
To: Akshay Joshi <[email protected]>
Cc: Dave Page <[email protected]>
Cc: Aditya Toshniwal <[email protected]>
Cc: pgAdmin Support <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: pgAdmin4-9.5 password textbox missing in connection settings
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2025 08:53:21 -0400
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Aditya,

Thanks, I look forward to that release.
Hopefully pgAdmin can more fully return to a sensible and standardized
approach to storing and changing connection credentials in future releases.

rik.


On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 8:35 AM Akshay Joshi <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> As we have a release of v9.6 scheduled for next week and limited time for
> major changes, we’ve implemented a minimal fix for now.
>
> The "Password" and "Save Password" fields are now editable only when the
> server is disconnected. By default, the password field is read-only and
> becomes editable only if "Save Password" is set to true. This is because
> changing the password has no effect unless it is saved. If the password is
> not 'Saved', the user will be prompted to enter the password again when
> attempting to connect.
>
> I understand this isn’t a complete solution, but at least the *Password*
> and *Save Password* fields will now be visible on the *Connection* tab
> for already registered servers.
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 6:28 PM richard coleman <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi again,
>>
>> I can attest that as of 9.1 the password box was always visible in the
>> Connection tab, at least on Windows 10.
>>
>> Why would someone *ever* want to hide somethihng so basic as the text
>> input area for the password?
>> When would a password textbox never be needed?
>>
>> These seems to be rather strange UI/workflow choices.  From what little
>> I've gathered from this breif exchange, it appears that pgAdmin4 has
>> switched to a workflow that:
>>
>>    1. Displays the Password label and textbox only when you first
>>    Register a server.
>>    2. If the password has been saved, and is still valid, it *hides* both
>>    the Password text and text box on subsequent displays of the Connection tab.
>>    3. If the password becomes invalid, then a separate popup dialog is
>>    presented to the user, independent of the server settings, prompting the
>>    user to enter the new password.
>>
>> {insert gif of Buggs Bunny displaying confused contortions here}
>> Huh?
>>
>> Who thought that this was a good road to travel down, and how can it be
>> reverted to a more standard workflow?
>>
>> In my humble opion, you should *never* diable any of the connection
>> settings. Especially none of these
>>
>>    - Host
>>    - Port
>>    - Username
>>    - Password
>>
>> The user should always be able to see and or change these values.
>>
>> Here are just a few of very common situations which your current workflow
>> makes needlessly complicated:
>>
>>    - You are creating/registering server connections for servers or more
>>    commonly roles, that don't currently exist.
>>    - You want to change the saved password in preperation of an imminent
>>    password change on the server.
>>    - You want to reuse an existing server connection with a different
>>    username and password (this one happens quite a bit while testing for me
>>    personally).
>>
>> I hope this behavior can be changed/reverted to a some
>> standard/common/sensible one in the very near future.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> rik.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 4:07 AM Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 at 07:16, Akshay Joshi <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Richard/Dave,
>>>>
>>>> If the server is already registered, the *Password* textbox will not
>>>> be visible—this has been the intended behavior for many years, if I recall
>>>> correctly. When you attempt to connect, the system will prompt you for the
>>>> password if it hasn’t been saved previously.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That seems odd - we normally try to disable rather than hide controls
>>> that are not needed in a particular context; precisely to avoid this kind
>>> of confusion.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 9:39 AM Aditya Toshniwal <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Richard/Dave,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm on 9.5 on my Mac and I can see the password textbox
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 9:17 PM Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 at 16:28, richard coleman <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've recently upgraded to pgAdmin4-9.5 from pgAdmin4-9.1 on Windows
>>>>>>> 10.
>>>>>>> Apparently the Password textbox in the Connection tab has been
>>>>>>> removed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why has this change been made?
>>>>>>> How do I get it back?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both good questions - I see the same issue on macOS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dave Page
>>>>>> pgAdmin: https://www.pgadmin.org
>>>>>> PostgreSQL: https://www.postgresql.org
>>>>>> pgEdge: https://www.pgedge.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Aditya Toshniwal
>>>>> pgAdmin Hacker | Sr. Staff SDE II | *enterprisedb.com*
>>>>> <https://www.enterprisedb.com/;
>>>>> "Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave Page
>>> pgAdmin: https://www.pgadmin.org
>>> PostgreSQL: https://www.postgresql.org
>>> pgEdge: https://www.pgedge.com
>>>
>>>


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