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From: anarazel@anarazel.de <andres@anarazel.de>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Cc: Paul Hinze <paul.t.hinze@gmail.com>
Cc: pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Simultaneous index creates on different schemas cause deadlock?
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 20:57:43 +0200
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Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> schrieb:

>Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com> writes:
>> On 2013-04-25 13:17:31 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>>> Since we know that C.I.C. executes in its own transaction, and there
>>> can't be more than one on the same table due to locking, it seems to
>me
>>> that it'd be safe to drop our own snapshot before waiting for other
>>> xacts to end.  That is, we could just rearrange the last few steps
>in
>>> DefineIndex(), taking care to save snapshot->xmin before we destroy
>the
>>> snapshot so that we still have that value to pass to
>>> GetCurrentVirtualXIDs().
>>> 
>>> Anybody see a flaw in that solution?
>
>> Except that it still will unnecessarily wait for other CICs, just not
>> deadlock, I don't see a problem. We could have a PROC_IN_CIC flag or
>> something so we can ignore other index creations, but I am not sure
>if
>> its worth the complication.
>
>I'm not sure it's a good idea to ignore other CICs altogether --- they
>could be executing user-defined index functions that do strange things
>like consult other tables.  Since this seems to me to be a bit outside
>the intended use-case for CIC anyway, I think it's good enough if they
>just don't deadlock

Fine with me, especially as nobody seems to have complained so far other than the OP, so it doesn't seem to be to common. 
I don't have access to the code ATM an I wonder whether DROP CONCURRENTLY has a similar problem? Depends a bit on how the waiting is done...

Andres

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