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From: Holger Jakobs <holger@jakobs.com>
To: pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org
Subject: Re: How can i be certain autovacuum is causing reuse if table still grows
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:44:18 +0200
Message-ID: <ab846992-fa14-9071-07ca-157cef437c43@jakobs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c730174f-9ec9-561a-d3ae-f736cd366c64@gmail.com>
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	<e772b0f8-57b1-67a7-2ef3-15e2b744bc45@gmail.com>
	<CP2PR80MB07071E099387E61C92489A018C720@CP2PR80MB0707.lamprd80.prod.outlook.com>
	<c730174f-9ec9-561a-d3ae-f736cd366c64@gmail.com>

So you can use your SERIAL (or GENERATED AS IDENTITY) column for this.
If you don't have this, you might add a DATE DEFAULT CURRENT_DATE
column, even if it's of no use except being the partition key.


Am 28.07.20 um 05:32 schrieb Ron:
> Any key that "increases linearly over time" is a chronological key;
> sequences are a perfect example.
>
> On 7/27/20 4:38 PM, Sidney Aloisio Ferreira Pryor wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Ron but this table has no date column.
>>
>> It has one line for each page of each scanned document.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *De:* Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
>> *Enviado:* segunda-feira, 27 de julho de 2020 18:27
>> *Para:* pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org
>> <pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org>
>> *Assunto:* Re: How can i be certain autovacuum is causing reuse if
>> table still grows
>>  
>> Another suggestion is to partition the table by a chronological key,
>> so that only a fraction of the table needs to be vacuumed.
>>
>> On 7/27/20 3:36 PM, Sidney Aloisio Ferreira Pryor wrote:
>>> Thank you, David.
>>> So can i assume that autovacuum only release dead tuples when it
>>> ends its execution?
>>>
>>> Autovacuum is not finishing and is running for days.
>>> We did not find a parameter to limit autovacuum executing time.
>>> Do you have any recomendation?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>> Sidney.
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *De:* David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
>>> <mailto:david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
>>> *Enviado:* segunda-feira, 27 de julho de 2020 17:17
>>> *Para:* Sidney Aloisio Ferreira Pryor <sidney@tjrj.jus.br>
>>> <mailto:sidney@tjrj.jus.br>
>>> *Cc:* pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org
>>> <mailto:pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org>
>>> <pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org>
>>> <mailto:pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org>
>>> *Assunto:* Re: How can i be certain autovacuum is causing reuse if
>>> table still grows
>>>  
>>> On Monday, July 27, 2020, Sidney Aloisio Ferreira Pryor
>>> <sidney@tjrj.jus.br <mailto:sidney@tjrj.jus.br>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi, we have a 9.6.5 postgres
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>     Autovacuum is set with default parameters and is running on this
>>>     table for days without naping or stopping.
>>>
>>>      3285 | -5 days -23:33:10.792166 | postgres | autovacuum: VACUUM
>>>     ANALYZE public.flip_pagina_edicao (to prevent wraparound)
>>>     (1 rows)
>>>
>>>
>>> Its probably best avoid drawing conclusions here until the
>>> anti-wraparound vacuum has completed and you’ve updated to the
>>> latest minor version of PostgreSQL.
>>>
>>> David J.
>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Angular momentum makes the world go 'round.
>
> -- 
> Angular momentum makes the world go 'round.

-- 
Holger Jakobs, Bergisch Gladbach, Tel. +49-178-9759012

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