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help / color / mirror / Atom feedFrom: Benjamin Scherrey <[email protected]>
To: Dave Page <[email protected]>
Cc: Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
Cc: Justin Clift <[email protected]>
Cc: PostgreSQL Advocacy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Birmingham City Council chose Oracle, went broke because of it ;)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2023 16:50:44 +0800
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Well a) the costs of the system (still undelivered) is 4x the initial
contract ; and b) they've determined that the ERP was incapable of
performing the functions of the contract because it orientation for
manufacturing rather than HR. So not even Oracle has a competing product!
On Thu, Sep 7, 2023, 4:28 PM Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 7 Sept 2023 at 09:23, Magnus Hagander <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 1:49 AM Justin Clift <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Heh Heh Heh. This is pretty funny:
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/05/birmingham_city_council_oracle/
>> >
>> > "Birmingham City Council, the largest local authority in Europe, has
>> > declared itself in financial distress after troubled Oracle project
>> > costs ballooned from £20 million to around £100 million ($125.5
>> > million)."
>> >
>> > Wonder if they'll make the smart choice next time around, and choose PG
>> > + a decent vendor instead? :)
>>
>> In fairness, that project is about Oracle Fusion, not the database. So
>> PG doesn't have a competing product. There are opensource ERP products
>> out there, but I'm not sure they're advanced enough to handle
>> something like that...
>>
>
> Indeed. It also only amounts for a fraction of the council's liabilities.
> The vast majority is from an equal pay judgement against them, which iirc,
> totals a couple of billion pounds (of which they've paid off over half in
> the last decade I believe).
>
> So, yeah, the Oracle thing is a massive screw up. But it's not what caused
> the majority of their problems.
>
> --
> Dave Page
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