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From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Cc: Haifang Wang (Centific Technologies Inc) <v-haiwang@microsoft.com>
Cc: Rahul Pandey <pandeyrah@microsoft.com>
Cc: Vishwa Deepak <Vishwa.Deepak@microsoft.com>
Cc: Shawn Steele <Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com>
Cc: Amy Wishnousky <amyw@microsoft.com>
Cc: pgsql-bugs@lists.postgresql.org <pgsql-bugs@lists.postgresql.org>
Cc: Shweta Gulati <gulatishweta@microsoft.com>
Cc: Ashish Nawal <nawalashish@microsoft.com>
Cc: Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Windows Application Issues | PostgreSQL | REF # 48475607
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2024 18:54:51 -0400
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Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com> writes:
> One open question is whether we should ship a translation file
> ourselves.  I have heard two opinions: Tom Lane proposed in this
> thread that there should be no file initially, we let the user figure
> out what to put in there.  Magnus Hagander proposed at the pgconf.dev
> conference last week that we should ideally ship a complete
> translation file and maintain it over time, and it should be installed
> not in pgdata but rather in the install directory.

FWIW, I'm kind of down on the latter approach, because I don't think
it'll move the needle very far.  Based on track record so far, there's
no chance that we will be aware of a Microsoft locale renaming before
it starts breaking users' databases.  Therefore, "edit the translation
file" is going to have to be a documented process in any case, because
affected users are not going to want to wait around for our next
release for a fix.  Also, if people do have to do that, it doesn't
seem like a great idea to tell them to modify an installed file rather
than a cluster-local configuration file.  What if they do a minor
version update but the minor version doesn't (yet) contain the fix?

Admittedly, the installed-file approach could make it more transparent
for people who'd done a PG minor update before the relevant Windows
update.  I'm not sure how large that set of people will be, though.

			regards, tom lane





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