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From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Cc: Francesco Degrassi <francesco.degrassi@optionfactory.net>
Cc: pgsql-bugs@lists.postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Leader backend hang on IPC/ParallelFinish when LWLock held at parallel query start
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 01:45:31 -0400
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Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com> writes:
> What if we just ignored the plancache when uninterruptible?  The new planner
> check would then suffice.

Only if you believe that parallel-query is the only problem,
which is something I seriously doubt.  I fear that the
committed patch is just a band-aid over one symptom of the
general problem that we can't permit arbitrary operations
to be invoked from a btree comparison function.  It's late
here so I'm not sufficiently awake to think of examples,
but I'm sure there are some.

However ... clearly a maliciously-coded btree support function can
do arbitrarily bad stuff.  We restrict creation of opclasses to
superusers for exactly that reason.  If our ambitions are only
to prevent support functions from *accidentally* causing problems,
is disabling parallel query enough?  I'm still pretty uncomfortable
about it, but it's less obviously insufficient than in the general
case.

			regards, tom lane





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