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From: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Cc: exclusion@gmail.com, PostgreSQL mailing lists <pgsql-bugs@lists.postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: BUG #16486: Prompted password is ignored when password specified in connection string
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 16:38:46 -0400
Message-ID: <20200901203846.GA13613@momjian.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2142411.1591667958@sss.pgh.pa.us>
References: <16486-b9c93d71c02c4907@postgresql.org>
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On Mon, Jun  8, 2020 at 09:59:18PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> I wrote:
> > Hmm ... I had thought that the docs explained -W in more or less the same
> > way I did above, but I see that (at least on the psql page) things are
> > indeed pretty vague.  I'll see about improving that.
> 
> Concretely, it looks like we need edits as attached for psql, and
> likewise for all our other programs with similar options.
> 
> The thing that was really missing here IMO is the specification that a
> conninfo string overrides other command-line parameters.  It's somewhat
> debatable whether a -W prompt is a "command line parameter", but it
> acts that way for this purpose.  In any case, I'm disinclined to document
> that specific interaction, because it would amount to blessing a pretty
> damfool practice, which is to make your password visible on the program's
> command line.  (I wonder whether section 33.1.2 ought to specifically
> caution against putting passwords into command-line conninfo strings.)

I used a later version of Tom's patch to add documentation of how
connection strings can override command-line options, plus it has the
password description improvements.

I would like to apply this to all supported versions.

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  Bruce Momjian  <bruce@momjian.us>        https://momjian.us
  EnterpriseDB                             https://enterprisedb.com

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passwd.diff (text/x-diff, 10.9K) download diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/clusterdb.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/clusterdb.sgml index 177856ca74..3049c915bb 100644 --- a/doc/src/sgml/ref/clusterdb.sgml +++ b/doc/src/sgml/ref/clusterdb.sgml @@ -95,7 +95,9 @@ PostgreSQL documentation <option>--all</option>) is not used, the database name is read from the environment variable <envar>PGDATABASE</envar>. If that is not set, the user name specified for the connection is - used. + used. <link linkend="libpq-connstring">Connction strings</link> + can also be used for connection specifications, and these can + override other command-line options. </para> </listitem> </varlistentry> diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_basebackup.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_basebackup.sgml index aa0b27c9f3..19c7d098b9 100644 --- a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_basebackup.sgml +++ b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_basebackup.sgml @@ -653,8 +653,9 @@ PostgreSQL documentation <term><option>--dbname=<replaceable class="parameter">connstr</replaceable></option></term> <listitem> <para> - Specifies parameters used to connect to the server, as a connection - string. See <xref linkend="libpq-connstring"/> for more information. + Specifies parameters used to connect to the server, as a <link + linkend="libpq-connstring">connction strings</link>; these + can override other command-line options. </para> <para> The option is called <literal>--dbname</literal> for consistency with other diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_dump.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_dump.sgml index 0b2e2de87b..f4b209af83 100644 --- a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_dump.sgml +++ b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_dump.sgml @@ -1130,14 +1130,10 @@ PostgreSQL documentation Specifies the name of the database to connect to. This is equivalent to specifying <replaceable class="parameter">dbname</replaceable> as the first non-option - argument on the command line. - </para> - <para> - If this parameter contains an <symbol>=</symbol> sign or starts - with a valid <acronym>URI</acronym> prefix - (<literal>postgresql://</literal> - or <literal>postgres://</literal>), it is treated as a - <parameter>conninfo</parameter> string. See <xref linkend="libpq-connect"/> for more information. + argument on the command line. <link + linkend="libpq-connstring">Connction strings</link> can also be + used for connection specifications, and these can override other + command-line options. </para> </listitem> </varlistentry> diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_dumpall.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_dumpall.sgml index 43abc530a0..e7868091b9 100644 --- a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_dumpall.sgml +++ b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_dumpall.sgml @@ -550,8 +550,9 @@ PostgreSQL documentation <term><option>--dbname=<replaceable class="parameter">connstr</replaceable></option></term> <listitem> <para> - Specifies parameters used to connect to the server, as a connection - string. See <xref linkend="libpq-connstring"/> for more information. + Specifies parameters used to connect to the server, as a <link + linkend="libpq-connstring">connction strings</link>; these + can override other command-line options. </para> <para> The option is called <literal>--dbname</literal> for consistency with other diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_isready.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_isready.sgml index 3d5b551b87..63ef1d785a 100644 --- a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_isready.sgml +++ b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_isready.sgml @@ -47,15 +47,10 @@ PostgreSQL documentation <term><option>--dbname=<replaceable class="parameter">dbname</replaceable></option></term> <listitem> <para> - Specifies the name of the database to connect to. - </para> - <para> - If this parameter contains an <symbol>=</symbol> sign or starts - with a valid <acronym>URI</acronym> prefix - (<literal>postgresql://</literal> - or <literal>postgres://</literal>), it is treated as a - <parameter>conninfo</parameter> string. See <xref - linkend="libpq-connstring"/> for more information. + Specifies the name of the database to connect to. <link + linkend="libpq-connstring">Connction strings</link> can also be + used for connection specifications, and these can override other + command-line options. </para> </listitem> </varlistentry> diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_receivewal.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_receivewal.sgml index 865ec84262..76d2ba48fa 100644 --- a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_receivewal.sgml +++ b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_receivewal.sgml @@ -252,8 +252,9 @@ PostgreSQL documentation <term><option>--dbname=<replaceable class="parameter">connstr</replaceable></option></term> <listitem> <para> - Specifies parameters used to connect to the server, as a connection - string. See <xref linkend="libpq-connstring"/> for more information. + Specifies parameters used to connect to the server, as a <link + linkend="libpq-connstring">connction strings</link>; these + can override other command-line options. </para> <para> The option is called <literal>--dbname</literal> for consistency with other diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_recvlogical.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_recvlogical.sgml index 41508fdc1e..a9651b0921 100644 --- a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_recvlogical.sgml +++ b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_recvlogical.sgml @@ -277,10 +277,11 @@ PostgreSQL documentation <term><option>--dbname=<replaceable>database</replaceable></option></term> <listitem> <para> - The database to connect to. See the description of the actions for - what this means in detail. This can be a <application>libpq</application> connection string; - see <xref linkend="libpq-connstring"/> for more information. Defaults - to user name. + The database to connect to. See the description + of the actions for what this means in detail. <link + linkend="libpq-connstring">Connction strings</link> can also + be used for connection specifications, and these can override + other command-line options. Defaults to the user name. </para> </listitem> </varlistentry> diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_restore.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_restore.sgml index 27eab2f02a..a4f2ee9f43 100644 --- a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_restore.sgml +++ b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_restore.sgml @@ -156,7 +156,9 @@ PostgreSQL documentation <para> Connect to database <replaceable class="parameter">dbname</replaceable> and restore directly - into the database. + into the database. <link linkend="libpq-connstring">Connction + strings</link> can also be used for connection specifications, + and these can override other command-line options. </para> </listitem> </varlistentry> diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/psql-ref.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/psql-ref.sgml index 201946990f..b9a0ab245a 100644 --- a/doc/src/sgml/ref/psql-ref.sgml +++ b/doc/src/sgml/ref/psql-ref.sgml @@ -168,15 +168,10 @@ EOF Specifies the name of the database to connect to. This is equivalent to specifying <replaceable class="parameter">dbname</replaceable> as the first non-option - argument on the command line. - </para> - <para> - If this parameter contains an <symbol>=</symbol> sign or starts - with a valid <acronym>URI</acronym> prefix - (<literal>postgresql://</literal> - or <literal>postgres://</literal>), it is treated as a - <parameter>conninfo</parameter> string. See <xref - linkend="libpq-connstring"/> for more information. + argument on the command line. <link + linkend="libpq-connstring">Connction strings</link> can also be + used for connection specifications, and these can override other + command-line options. </para> </listitem> </varlistentry> @@ -498,7 +493,7 @@ EOF <listitem> <para> Never issue a password prompt. If the server requires password - authentication and a password is not available by other means + authentication and a password is not available from other sources such as a <filename>.pgpass</filename> file, the connection attempt will fail. This option can be useful in batch jobs and scripts where no user is present to enter a password. @@ -518,13 +513,15 @@ EOF <listitem> <para> Force <application>psql</application> to prompt for a - password before connecting to a database. + password before connecting to a database, even if the password will + not be used. </para> <para> - This option is never essential, since <application>psql</application> - will automatically prompt for a password if the server demands - password authentication. However, <application>psql</application> + If the server requires password authentication and a password is not + available from other sources such as a <filename>.pgpass</filename> + file, <application>psql</application> will prompt for a + password in any case. However, <application>psql</application> will waste a connection attempt finding out that the server wants a password. In some cases it is worth typing <option>-W</option> to avoid the extra connection attempt. diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/reindexdb.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/reindexdb.sgml index 026fd018d9..f8e27d82c2 100644 --- a/doc/src/sgml/ref/reindexdb.sgml +++ b/doc/src/sgml/ref/reindexdb.sgml @@ -139,7 +139,9 @@ PostgreSQL documentation <option>--all</option>) is not used, the database name is read from the environment variable <envar>PGDATABASE</envar>. If that is not set, the user name specified for the connection is - used. + used. <link linkend="libpq-connstring">Connction strings</link> + can also be used for connection specifications, and these can + override other command-line options. </para> </listitem> </varlistentry> diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/vacuumdb.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/vacuumdb.sgml index 95d6894cb0..04975656bb 100644 --- a/doc/src/sgml/ref/vacuumdb.sgml +++ b/doc/src/sgml/ref/vacuumdb.sgml @@ -97,7 +97,9 @@ PostgreSQL documentation <option>--all</option>) is not used, the database name is read from the environment variable <envar>PGDATABASE</envar>. If that is not set, the user name specified for the connection is - used. + used. <link linkend="libpq-connstring">Connction strings</link> + can also be used for connection specifications, and these can + override other command-line options. </para> </listitem> </varlistentry>

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