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From: Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
To: Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Cc: Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres@gmail.com>
Cc: robertmhaas@gmail.com, Alexander Lakhin <exclusion@gmail.com>
Cc: PostgreSQL mailing lists <pgsql-bugs@lists.postgresql.org>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Subject: Re: BUG #17257: (auto)vacuum hangs within lazy_scan_prune()
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2024 13:44:47 -0800
Message-ID: <20240109214447.88@rfd.leadboat.com> (raw)
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On Tue, Jan 09, 2024 at 03:59:19PM -0500, Peter Geoghegan wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 3:24 PM Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 03:53:34PM -0800, Peter Geoghegan wrote:
> > > I am aware of a production database that appears to run into the same
> > > problem. Inserts and concurrent cross-partition updates are used
> > > heavily on this instance (the table in question uses partitioning).
> > > Perhaps you happened upon a similar problematic production database,
> > > and found this thread when researching the issue? Maybe we've both
> > > seen the same problem in the wild?
> >
> > I did find this thread while researching the symptoms I was seeing.  No
> > partitioning where I saw them.
> 
> I'm starting to think that partitioning was just a red herring. The
> instance had problems in the presence of DELETEs, not UPDATEs (or
> cross-partition UPDATEs).
> 
> Did the affected system that you investigated happen to have an
> atypically high number of databases? The system 15.4 system that I saw
> the problem on had almost 3,000 databases.

No, single-digit database count here.





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