From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Cc: Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Cc: Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Cc: Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Cc: k.yudhveer@gmail.com, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: BUG #16079: Question Regarding the BUG #16064
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 13:31:32 -0500
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Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com> writes:
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 7:58 PM Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> wrote:
>> * Magnus Hagander (magnus@hagander.net) wrote:
>>> Maybe we should do the same for LDAP (and RADIUS)? This seems like a
>>> better place to put it than to log it at every time it's received?
>> A dollar short and a year late, but ... +1.
> I would suggest going further. I would make the change on the client side,
> and have libpq refuse to send unhashed passwords without having an
> environment variable set which allows it.
As noted, that would break LDAP and RADIUS auth methods; likely also PAM.
> What is the value of logging on the server side?
I do agree with this point, but mostly on the grounds of "nobody reads
the server log".
regards, tom lane
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