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From: Andrei Lepikhov <a.lepikhov@postgrespro.ru>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: Alexander Korotkov <aekorotkov@gmail.com>
Cc: Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com>
Cc: Vik Fearing <vik@postgresfriends.org>
Cc: zuming.jiang@inf.ethz.ch, pgsql-bugs@lists.postgresql.org, Alexander Korotkov <akorotkov@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: BUG #18170: Unexpected error: no relation entry for relid 3
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2023 09:43:09 +0700
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On 29/10/2023 22:56, Tom Lane wrote:
> Alexander Korotkov <aekorotkov@gmail.com> writes:
>> I made some beautification of the patch by Andrei.  I also removed the
>> part which changes the target list for estimate_num_groups().  Any
>> objections to pushing this?
> 
> It seems moderately likely that this will break as much as it fixes.
> 
> I've not studied the original patch enough to understand why you need
> to be playing strange games with tree mutation rules, but I suspect
> that this is band-aiding over some rather fundamentally bad code.

Thank you for the feedback.
I need to confess that it is not clear why keeping two links on the same 
query in a consistent state is a bad idea. If it really is, it would be 
better for future development to explain the reason as a comment in the 
code (because the current problematic procedure was introduced only in [1]).
The doubt I had had about SJE was the cleaning procedure. We are afraid 
of hidden corner cases when deleting relid can be placed elsewhere, or a 
new feature could add more places for this relid. But as an opposite 
reason, we have a better understanding of the planner, a kind of 
self-check of hidden potential bugs. And for me personally, the latter 
is a strong reason. Also, as I see, in the e9a20e4 you wrote the code 
keeping in mind the same idea.

[1] Make Vars be outer-join-aware

-- 
regards,
Andrei Lepikhov
Postgres Professional






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