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* Update documentation page for translators
@ 2021-10-22 11:12  PG Doc comments form <noreply@postgresql.org>
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From: PG Doc comments form @ 2021-10-22 11:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; +Cc: goran.luledzija@gmail.com

The following documentation comment has been logged on the website:

Page: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/11/nls-translator.html
Description:

In the documentation for translators
(https://www.postgresql.org/docs/11/nls-translator.html) it is mentioned to
use any text editor for translating .po files. It can be very error prone
with regular text editors, especiially for non-tech people such as
translators.

I thought you it would be useful to suggest usage of dedicated editors for
.po files, such as "Free PO editor" (https://pofile.net/free-po-editor)
which will guide them how to translate, without file structure errors.


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* Re: Update documentation page for translators
@ 2021-11-12 13:46  Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
  parent: PG Doc comments form <noreply@postgresql.org>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread

From: Daniel Gustafsson @ 2021-11-12 13:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: goran.luledzija@gmail.com, Pg Docs <pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org>; +Cc: Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com>; Georgios <gkokolatos@protonmail.com>

> On 22 Oct 2021, at 13:12, PG Doc comments form <noreply@postgresql.org> wrote:
> 
> The following documentation comment has been logged on the website:
> 
> Page: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/11/nls-translator.html
> Description:
> 
> In the documentation for translators
> (https://www.postgresql.org/docs/11/nls-translator.html) it is mentioned to
> use any text editor for translating .po files. It can be very error prone
> with regular text editors, especiially for non-tech people such as
> translators.

I think this makes sense, having done some translation work myself I agree that
the PO editors out there can help quite a bit.  Now, I'm sure anyone interested
is perfectly capable of Googling, but since this chapter is there to help
potential or new contributors I think it's fine to lower the bar and be a bit
more verbose.

I don't feel like linking to any specific tool though, so I just added a small
sentence to indicate that options exist, and that we don't necessarily require
anyone to use a text editor.

CC:ing developers who have spent time with translations for input.

--
Daniel Gustafsson		https://vmware.com/

Attachments:

  [application/octet-stream] translations.diff (704B, ../../84001965-130C-4622-A7ED-DAEACF7A3BCC@yesql.se/2-translations.diff)
  download | inline diff:
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/nls.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/nls.sgml
index d49f44f3f2..0b3c638594 100644
--- a/doc/src/sgml/nls.sgml
+++ b/doc/src/sgml/nls.sgml
@@ -202,7 +202,9 @@ make update-po
    <title>Editing the PO Files</title>
 
    <para>
-    The PO files can be edited with a regular text editor.  The
+    The PO files can be edited with a regular text editor. There are also
+    several specialized editors for PO files which can help the process with
+    translation specific features.  The
     translator should only change the area between the quotes after
     the msgstr directive, add comments, and alter the fuzzy flag.
     There is (unsurprisingly) a PO mode for Emacs, which I find quite

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* Re: Update documentation page for translators
@ 2022-08-17 20:56  Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
  parent: Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread

From: Bruce Momjian @ 2022-08-17 20:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>; +Cc: goran.luledzija@gmail.com, Pg Docs <pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org>; Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com>; Georgios <gkokolatos@protonmail.com>


Is there a reason this patch was not applied?

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On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 02:46:40PM +0100, Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
> > On 22 Oct 2021, at 13:12, PG Doc comments form <noreply@postgresql.org> wrote:
> > 
> > The following documentation comment has been logged on the website:
> > 
> > Page: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/11/nls-translator.html
> > Description:
> > 
> > In the documentation for translators
> > (https://www.postgresql.org/docs/11/nls-translator.html) it is mentioned to
> > use any text editor for translating .po files. It can be very error prone
> > with regular text editors, especiially for non-tech people such as
> > translators.
> 
> I think this makes sense, having done some translation work myself I agree that
> the PO editors out there can help quite a bit.  Now, I'm sure anyone interested
> is perfectly capable of Googling, but since this chapter is there to help
> potential or new contributors I think it's fine to lower the bar and be a bit
> more verbose.
> 
> I don't feel like linking to any specific tool though, so I just added a small
> sentence to indicate that options exist, and that we don't necessarily require
> anyone to use a text editor.
> 
> CC:ing developers who have spent time with translations for input.
> 
> --
> Daniel Gustafsson		https://vmware.com/
> 

> diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/nls.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/nls.sgml
> index d49f44f3f2..0b3c638594 100644
> --- a/doc/src/sgml/nls.sgml
> +++ b/doc/src/sgml/nls.sgml
> @@ -202,7 +202,9 @@ make update-po
>     <title>Editing the PO Files</title>
>  
>     <para>
> -    The PO files can be edited with a regular text editor.  The
> +    The PO files can be edited with a regular text editor. There are also
> +    several specialized editors for PO files which can help the process with
> +    translation specific features.  The
>      translator should only change the area between the quotes after
>      the msgstr directive, add comments, and alter the fuzzy flag.
>      There is (unsurprisingly) a PO mode for Emacs, which I find quite


-- 
  Bruce Momjian  <bruce@momjian.us>        https://momjian.us
  EDB                                      https://enterprisedb.com

  Indecision is a decision.  Inaction is an action.  Mark Batterson






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* Re: Update documentation page for translators
@ 2022-08-17 20:58  Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
  parent: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread

From: Daniel Gustafsson @ 2022-08-17 20:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>; +Cc: goran.luledzija@gmail.com, Pg Docs <pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org>; Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com>; Georgios <gkokolatos@protonmail.com>

> On 17 Aug 2022, at 22:56, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:

> Is there a reason this patch was not applied?

Only that it fell of my radar, if you think it's adding value I'm happy to get
it done now.

--
Daniel Gustafsson		https://vmware.com/






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* Re: Update documentation page for translators
@ 2022-08-17 21:24  Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
  parent: Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread

From: Bruce Momjian @ 2022-08-17 21:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>; +Cc: goran.luledzija@gmail.com, Pg Docs <pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org>; Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com>; Georgios <gkokolatos@protonmail.com>

On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 10:58:55PM +0200, Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
> > On 17 Aug 2022, at 22:56, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:
> 
> > Is there a reason this patch was not applied?
> 
> Only that it fell of my radar, if you think it's adding value I'm happy to get
> it done now.

Sure, it looked useful to me too.

-- 
  Bruce Momjian  <bruce@momjian.us>        https://momjian.us
  EDB                                      https://enterprisedb.com

  Indecision is a decision.  Inaction is an action.  Mark Batterson






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* Re: Update documentation page for translators
@ 2022-08-17 21:47  Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
  parent: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread

From: Daniel Gustafsson @ 2022-08-17 21:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>; +Cc: goran.luledzija@gmail.com, Pg Docs <pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org>; Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com>; Georgios <gkokolatos@protonmail.com>

> On 17 Aug 2022, at 23:24, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 10:58:55PM +0200, Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
>>> On 17 Aug 2022, at 22:56, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:
>> 
>>> Is there a reason this patch was not applied?
>> 
>> Only that it fell of my radar, if you think it's adding value I'm happy to get
>> it done now.
> 
> Sure, it looked useful to me too.

Done, thanks.

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Daniel Gustafsson		https://vmware.com/






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