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From: Roberto Mello <rmello@cc.usu.edu>
To: Chad N. Tindel <chad@tindel.net>
Cc: scott.marlowe <scott.marlowe@ihs.com>
Cc: pgsql-docs@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Mysql -> Postgresql pitfalls
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 00:33:46 -0600
Message-ID: <20030802063346.GA24640@cc.usu.edu> (raw)
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On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 04:51:11PM -0400, Chad N. Tindel wrote:
> 
> <RANT>As a programmer, I personally would never write code that kept people from
> running things as root.  I mean, what is the point?  If an administrator

Hmmm? 

The point is something called security.

> wants to run postgresql or apache as root, why shouldn't they be allowed
> to make that conscious decision for themselves?  As it is, you have to recompile

Because administrators have too much to worry about. If an application
makes a conscious decision to allow itself to run in a knowingly insecure
manner, that application is doing the admin a disfavor, and should be
ditched.

> apache with some BIG_SECURITY_HOLE defined in order to run as root, which means
> you can't just use the out of the box apache rpm.  Its so stupid to write
> *extra* code that keeps people from doing something that isn't even 
> fundamentally incorrect.</RANT>

This has no logic. Security is fundamental. No security is fundamentally
incorrect.

-Roberto

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+       Computer Science Graduate Student, Utah State University      +
+       USU Free Software & GNU/Linux Club - http://fslc.usu.edu/     +
---------------/ NO INSPIRATION TODAY /-------------------



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