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* Article doing a basic comparison of MySQL, Oracle, PostgreSQL @ 2005-08-11 06:49 Gavin Sherry <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Gavin Sherry @ 2005-08-11 06:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pgsql-docs Though it was published some time ago, I only just came across this article: http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/oracle/115560 The comparison criteria is primative but PostgreSQL does well. I must say, I was thrown by this comment: "That web site includes a very good installation document. However, post installation and getting started documentation is very limited. I hope that that will change in time." I find this peculiar, considering this: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.0/static/tutorial-start.html Now, perhaps the author's conclusion is just bogus but can anyone think of better ways in which we could ease people into PostgreSQL? Thanks, Gavin ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: Article doing a basic comparison of MySQL, Oracle, PostgreSQL @ 2005-08-11 15:08 Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]> parent: Gavin Sherry <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2005-08-11 15:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Gavin Sherry <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-docs >I find this peculiar, considering this: > >http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.0/static/tutorial-start.html > >Now, perhaps the author's conclusion is just bogus but can anyone think of >better ways in which we could ease people into PostgreSQL? > > I think more than likely it just isn't obvious where the tutorial is. I just went to the website, I clicked documentation, no immediate mention of the tutorial. Then I click 8.0, where is the tutorial? Oh... it is in the beginning of the 1300 pages of documentation. Honestly, I didn't even know it was there. Of course I haven't had need for it, but if I couldn't readily find it in 1 click (which is what it should be) then a guy writing an article isn't going to either. The tutorial/introduction should be a nice fat link in the center of the page when you click documentation. Right now when you click documentation you get this: There is a wealth of PostgreSQL information available online. This section contains current <http://www.postgresql.org/docs/manuals; and archived <http://www.postgresql.org/docs/manuals/archive; manuals for PostgreSQL users, as well as frequently asked questions <http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq;. You can learn what's new <http://www.postgresql.org/docs/whatsnew; in the latest release, and view a listing of books <http://www.postgresql.org/docs/books; written about PostgreSQL (some of which are available in their entirety online). Technical documentation <http://techdocs.postgresql.org; is also available in this section. Which should probably be: There is a wealth of PostgreSQL information available online. If you are new to PostgreSQL we strongly suggest you check out the latest <BOLD>Tutorial</BOLD>. This section contains current <http://www.postgresql.org/docs/manuals; and archived <http://www.postgresql.org/docs/manuals/archive; manuals for PostgreSQL users, as well as frequently asked questions <http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq;. You can learn what's new <http://www.postgresql.org/docs/whatsnew; in the latest release, and view a listing of books <http://www.postgresql.org/docs/books; written about PostgreSQL (some of which are available in their entirety online). Technical documentation <http://techdocs.postgresql.org; is also available in this section. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake >Thanks, > >Gavin > >---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to > choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not > match > > ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: Article doing a basic comparison of MySQL, Oracle, PostgreSQL @ 2005-08-11 16:51 Andrew Ford <[email protected]> parent: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Andrew Ford @ 2005-08-11 16:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-docs; [email protected] Joshua D. Drake wrote: > >> I find this peculiar, considering this: >> >> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.0/static/tutorial-start.html >> >> Now, perhaps the author's conclusion is just bogus but can anyone >> think of >> better ways in which we could ease people into PostgreSQL? >> >> > I think more than likely it just isn't obvious where the tutorial is. > I just went to the website, I clicked documentation, no immediate > mention of the tutorial. Then I click 8.0, where is the tutorial? > > Oh... it is in the beginning of the 1300 pages of documentation. I think that the documentation should be split (back out) into separate books -- tutorial, reference, release notes, etc. It is too unwieldy as it is. The release notes at least should be separate -- I was rather pissed off when I discovered that what I had printed out included changes for releases I had no interest in. If the documents have been amalgamated to suit a publisher then I feel even more agrieved -- I resent having to pay for padding and resent the waste of paper. With a duplex printer the documentation fills two binders; printed simplex it would be more like four! Andrew Ford ford-mason.co.uk ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: Article doing a basic comparison of MySQL, Oracle, PostgreSQL @ 2005-08-16 00:26 Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]> parent: Andrew Ford <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: Jim C. Nasby @ 2005-08-16 00:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrew Ford <[email protected]>; +Cc: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; pgsql-docs; [email protected] On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 05:51:14PM +0100, Andrew Ford wrote: > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > > >>I find this peculiar, considering this: > >> > >>http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.0/static/tutorial-start.html > >> > >>Now, perhaps the author's conclusion is just bogus but can anyone > >>think of > >>better ways in which we could ease people into PostgreSQL? > >> > >> > >I think more than likely it just isn't obvious where the tutorial is. > >I just went to the website, I clicked documentation, no immediate > >mention of the tutorial. Then I click 8.0, where is the tutorial? > > > >Oh... it is in the beginning of the 1300 pages of documentation. > > I think that the documentation should be split (back out) into separate > books -- tutorial, reference, release notes, etc. It is too unwieldy as > it is. The release notes at least should be separate -- I was rather I always have trouble finding info, just about anywhere on the site, and the docs are no exception. I generally just use the SQL reference, but there's still a lot of info that's not in that reference. In this case, I think the real issue is a matter of website design. It would be good if there was a prominent 'Getting started' link somewhere. -- Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant [email protected] Pervasive Software http://pervasive.com 512-569-9461 ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 4+ messages in thread
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