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* Suggested changes to Tutorial
@ 2006-07-31 22:29 Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
  2006-08-01 00:09 ` Re: Suggested changes to Tutorial Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread

From: Josh Berkus @ 2006-07-31 22:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-docs

Folks:

in tutorial-createdb, it says:

"... where your own login name is mentioned. This will happen if the 
administrator has not created a PostgreSQL user account for you. 
(PostgreSQL user accounts are distinct from operating system user 
accounts.) If you are the administrator, see Chapter 18 for help creating 
accounts. You will need to become the operating system user under which 
PostgreSQL was installed (usually postgres) to create the first user 
account. It could also be that you were assigned a PostgreSQL user name 
that is different from your operating system user name; in that case you 
need to use the -U switch or set the PGUSER environment variable to 
specify your PostgreSQL user name."

This isn't nearly clear enough for a tutorial.  It should say:

"... where your own login name is mentioned. This will happen if the 
administrator has not created a PostgreSQL user account for you. 
(PostgreSQL user accounts are distinct from operating system user 
accounts.) It could also be that you were assigned a PostgreSQL user name 
that is different from your operating system user name; in that case you 
need to use the -U switch or set the PGUSER environment variable to 
specify your PostgreSQL user name.

If this is a new installation and you are the administrator, then you 
probably need to connect as the system user who owns the PostgreSQL 
installation, usually "postgres", but sometimes "pgsql".  On POSIX systems 
you can do this via the command "su - postgres"; otherwise simply log into 
the system as that system user.   Once you are logged in as the 
installation owner, you can use createuser<link> to add other accounts."


-- 
--Josh

Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL @ Sun
San Francisco



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* Re: Suggested changes to Tutorial
  2006-07-31 22:29 Suggested changes to Tutorial Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
@ 2006-08-01 00:09 ` Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
  2006-08-01 00:11   ` Re: Suggested changes to Tutorial Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread

From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2006-08-01 00:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: josh@agliodbs.com; +Cc: pgsql-docs

> 
> If this is a new installation and you are the administrator, then you 
> probably need to connect as the system user who owns the PostgreSQL 
> installation, usually "postgres", but sometimes "pgsql".  On POSIX systems 
> you can do this via the command "su - postgres"; otherwise simply log into 
> the system as that system user.   Once you are logged in as the 
> installation owner, you can use createuser<link> to add other accounts."

Josh... then why didn't you just submit a patch?

Joshua D. Drake



> 
> 


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* Re: Suggested changes to Tutorial
  2006-07-31 22:29 Suggested changes to Tutorial Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
  2006-08-01 00:09 ` Re: Suggested changes to Tutorial Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
@ 2006-08-01 00:11   ` Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
  2006-08-01 00:41     ` Re: Suggested changes to Tutorial Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
  2006-08-01 06:54     ` Re: Suggested changes to Tutorial Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread

From: Josh Berkus @ 2006-08-01 00:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>; +Cc: pgsql-docs

JD,

> Josh... then why didn't you just submit a patch?

See earlier conversation about the lack of good tools for Docbook/SGML.

-- 
--Josh

Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL @ Sun
San Francisco



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* Re: Suggested changes to Tutorial
  2006-07-31 22:29 Suggested changes to Tutorial Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
  2006-08-01 00:09 ` Re: Suggested changes to Tutorial Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
  2006-08-01 00:11   ` Re: Suggested changes to Tutorial Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
@ 2006-08-01 00:41     ` Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
  2006-08-01 08:08       ` Re: Suggested changes to Tutorial Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread

From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2006-08-01 00:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: josh@agliodbs.com; +Cc: pgsql-docs

Josh Berkus wrote:
> JD,
> 
>> Josh... then why didn't you just submit a patch?
> 
> See earlier conversation about the lack of good tools for Docbook/SGML.
> 

I guess this comes back to.. why (really) haven't we switched to what is 
widely considered the documentation standard, which is Docbook XML.

Joshua D. Drake


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    === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. ===
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* Re: Suggested changes to Tutorial
  2006-07-31 22:29 Suggested changes to Tutorial Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
  2006-08-01 00:09 ` Re: Suggested changes to Tutorial Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
  2006-08-01 00:11   ` Re: Suggested changes to Tutorial Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
  2006-08-01 00:41     ` Re: Suggested changes to Tutorial Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
@ 2006-08-01 08:08       ` Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread

From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2006-08-01 08:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-docs; +Cc: Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>; josh@agliodbs.com

Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> I guess this comes back to.. why (really) haven't we switched to what
> is widely considered the documentation standard, which is Docbook
> XML.

Every time this is brought up for discussion, people come up with 
irrelevant and incorrect arguments about this -- see last discussion a 
few weeks ago.  We need to see factual arguments about benefits.

-- 
Peter Eisentraut
http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/



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* Re: Suggested changes to Tutorial
  2006-07-31 22:29 Suggested changes to Tutorial Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
  2006-08-01 00:09 ` Re: Suggested changes to Tutorial Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
  2006-08-01 00:11   ` Re: Suggested changes to Tutorial Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
@ 2006-08-01 06:54     ` Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread

From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2006-08-01 06:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-docs; josh@agliodbs.com; +Cc: Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>

Josh Berkus wrote:
> > Josh... then why didn't you just submit a patch?
>
> See earlier conversation about the lack of good tools for
> Docbook/SGML.

Surely diff doesn't care.

-- 
Peter Eisentraut
http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/



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