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From: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
To: David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: karimelghazouly@gmail.com, Pg Docs <pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: small clairifcation
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 20:42:57 -0400
Message-ID: <20200901004257.GU13613@momjian.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKFQuwZZ2k0p=x1MPwGWQh1v8prq_efvNBs8ncsxrWOyd+45cg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <159854511172.24991.4373145230066586863@wrigleys.postgresql.org>
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	<CAKFQuwZZ2k0p=x1MPwGWQh1v8prq_efvNBs8ncsxrWOyd+45cg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 09:51:49PM -0700, David G. Johnston wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 6:17 PM Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
> 
>     PG Doc comments form <noreply@postgresql.org> writes:
>     > The following documentation comment has been logged on the website:
>     > Page: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.5/ssh-tunnels.html
>     > Description:
> 
>     > "The first number in the -L argument, 63333, is the port number of your
>     end
>     > of the tunnel; it can be any unused port. (IANA reserves ports 49152
>     through
>     > 65535 for private use.) The second number, 5432, is the remote end of the
>     > tunnel: the port number your server is using. "
> 
>     > as a beginner This took me some time to understand what do you mean by
>     "your
>     > server" "your end of the tunnel "
> 
>     Hm, do you have a suggestion for better wording?
> 
> 
> 
> I agree on the need for a different perspective here since it reads just fine
> once you know what it is talking about.
> 
> But absent that maybe a slightly more tutorial flow would be good.

I didn't think a tutorial flow was the right thing to here, so I
reworded the section to be more details and have a clearer flow ---
patch attached.

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ssh.diff (text/x-diff, 3.9K) download diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/runtime.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/runtime.sgml index 6cda39f3ab..bc68ddc94b 100644 --- a/doc/src/sgml/runtime.sgml +++ b/doc/src/sgml/runtime.sgml @@ -2548,34 +2548,39 @@ openssl x509 -req -in server.csr -text -days 365 \ First make sure that an <application>SSH</application> server is running properly on the same machine as the <productname>PostgreSQL</productname> server and that you can log in using - <command>ssh</command> as some user. Then you can establish a secure - tunnel with a command like this from the client machine: + <command>ssh</command> as some user; you then can establish a + secure tunnel to the remote server. A secure tunnel listens on a + local port and forwards all traffic to a port on the remote machine. + Traffic sent to the remote port can arrive on its + <literal>localhost</literal> address, or different bind + address if desired; it does not appear as coming from your + local machine. This command creates a secure tunnel from the client + machine to the remote machine <literal>foo.com</literal>: <programlisting> ssh -L 63333:localhost:5432 joe@foo.com </programlisting> The first number in the <option>-L</option> argument, 63333, is the - port number of your end of the tunnel; it can be any unused port. - (IANA reserves ports 49152 through 65535 for private use.) The - second number, 5432, is the remote end of the tunnel: the port - number your server is using. The name or IP address between the - port numbers is the host with the database server you are going to - connect to, as seen from the host you are logging in to, which - is <literal>foo.com</literal> in this example. In order to connect - to the database server using this tunnel, you connect to port 63333 - on the local machine: + local port number of the tunnel; it can be any unused port. (IANA + reserves ports 49152 through 65535 for private use.) The name or IP + address after this is the remote bind address you are connecting to, + i.e., <literal>localhost</literal>, which is the default. The second + number, 5432, is the remote end of the tunnel, e.g., the port number + your database server is using. In order to connect to the database + server using this tunnel, you connect to port 63333 on the local + machine: <programlisting> psql -h localhost -p 63333 postgres </programlisting> - To the database server it will then look as though you are really + To the database server it will then look as though you are user <literal>joe</literal> on host <literal>foo.com</literal> - connecting to <literal>localhost</literal> in that context, and it + connecting to the <literal>localhost</literal> bind address, and it will use whatever authentication procedure was configured for - connections from this user and host. Note that the server will not + connections by that user to that bind address. Note that the server will not think the connection is SSL-encrypted, since in fact it is not encrypted between the <application>SSH</application> server and the <productname>PostgreSQL</productname> server. This should not pose any - extra security risk as long as they are on the same machine. + extra security risk because they are on the same machine. </para> <para> @@ -2587,12 +2592,12 @@ psql -h localhost -p 63333 postgres </para> <para> - You could also have set up the port forwarding as + You could also have set up port forwarding as <programlisting> ssh -L 63333:foo.com:5432 joe@foo.com </programlisting> but then the database server will see the connection as coming in - on its <literal>foo.com</literal> interface, which is not opened by + on its <literal>foo.com</literal> bind address, which is not opened by the default setting <literal>listen_addresses = 'localhost'</literal>. This is usually not what you want. </para>

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