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* "Cannot" vs "could not"
@ 2020-03-19 15:57 Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
  2020-03-19 16:07 ` Re: "Cannot" vs "could not" Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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From: Bruce Momjian @ 2020-03-19 15:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-docs

We use "cannot" and "could not" quite often in source code and error
messages:

	$ grep .. 'cannot' | wc -l
	13180

	$ grep ... 'could not' | wc -l
	12149

I noticed it by looking for errors about parsing in our /bin tools:

	src/pl/plperl/ppport.h:      die "cannot parse version '$ver'\n";
	src/pl/plperl/ppport.h:      die "cannot parse version '$ver'\n";
	src/bin/pg_upgrade/server.c: pg_fatal("could not parse version file \"%s\"\n", cluster->pgdata);

This web page explains the difference well, i.e., "cannot" is present
tens, "could not" is past tense:

	https://www.englishforums.com/English/CannotVsCouldNot/bhprvk/post.htm

Is there any sense that we should have more consistency in our message
wording?

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* Re: "Cannot" vs "could not"
  2020-03-19 15:57 "Cannot" vs "could not" Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
@ 2020-03-19 16:07 ` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
  2020-03-19 16:37   ` Re: "Cannot" vs "could not" Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread

From: Tom Lane @ 2020-03-19 16:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>; +Cc: pgsql-docs

Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> writes:
> We use "cannot" and "could not" quite often in source code and error
> messages:

Yup.

> Is there any sense that we should have more consistency in our message
> wording?

There is specific guidance about it in our error message style guide:

https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/error-style-guide.html

(see under "Present vs. Past Tense").  I believe we largely conform
to that guideline, though of course exceptions sneak in from time
to time.

			regards, tom lane





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* Re: "Cannot" vs "could not"
  2020-03-19 15:57 "Cannot" vs "could not" Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
  2020-03-19 16:07 ` Re: "Cannot" vs "could not" Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
@ 2020-03-19 16:37   ` Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread

From: Bruce Momjian @ 2020-03-19 16:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>; +Cc: pgsql-docs

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 12:07:35PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> writes:
> > We use "cannot" and "could not" quite often in source code and error
> > messages:
> 
> Yup.
> 
> > Is there any sense that we should have more consistency in our message
> > wording?
> 
> There is specific guidance about it in our error message style guide:
> 
> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/error-style-guide.html
> 
> (see under "Present vs. Past Tense").  I believe we largely conform
> to that guideline, though of course exceptions sneak in from time
> to time.

Oh, good. I remember we discussed this in the past, but didn't realize
we had written it down.  Thanks.

-- 
  Bruce Momjian  <bruce@momjian.us>        https://momjian.us
  EnterpriseDB                             https://enterprisedb.com

+ As you are, so once was I.  As I am, so you will be. +
+                      Ancient Roman grave inscription +





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