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* Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages)
@ 1999-08-09 17:47 Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>
1999-08-09 19:16 ` Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Peter Eisentraut <peter@pathwaynet.com>
1999-08-16 02:23 ` Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
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From: Lamar Owen @ 1999-08-09 17:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>; +Cc: José Soares <jose@sferacarta.com>; Postgres Hackers List <hackers@postgreSQL.org>
Thomas Lockhart wrote:
> I have chosen to use "Postgres" within the docs, as a shorter (and
> pronouncable ;) form of our product. "PostgreSQL" appears in all
How hard is it to say "Postgresquel", really? Don't tell me you've been
saying "Postgres cue ell".....;-)
Lamar Owen
WGCR Internet Radio
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* Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages)
1999-08-09 17:47 Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>
@ 1999-08-09 19:16 ` Peter Eisentraut <peter@pathwaynet.com>
1999-08-09 19:25 ` Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>
1999-08-09 19:51 ` Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) J. Michael Roberts <mirobert@cs.indiana.edu>
1999-08-10 02:16 ` Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
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From: Peter Eisentraut @ 1999-08-09 19:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>; +Cc: Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>; José Soares <jose@sferacarta.com>; Postgres Hackers List <hackers@postgresql.org>
On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Lamar Owen wrote:
> Thomas Lockhart wrote:
> > I have chosen to use "Postgres" within the docs, as a shorter (and
> > pronouncable ;) form of our product. "PostgreSQL" appears in all
>
> How hard is it to say "Postgresquel", really? Don't tell me you've been
> saying "Postgres cue ell".....;-)
I have! I don't see that there is really any difference between saying
"postgresequel" and "postgres-cue-ell". The syllables are just switched.
(kind of) However, perhaps the inventors of this term could offer their
insight into their intended pronounciation.
--
Peter Eisentraut
PathWay Computing, Inc.
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* Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages)
1999-08-09 17:47 Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>
1999-08-09 19:16 ` Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Peter Eisentraut <peter@pathwaynet.com>
@ 1999-08-09 19:25 ` Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>
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From: Lamar Owen @ 1999-08-09 19:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Eisentraut <peter@pathwaynet.com>; +Cc: Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>; José Soares <jose@sferacarta.com>; Postgres Hackers List <hackers@postgreSQL.org>
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>
> On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Lamar Owen wrote:
> > How hard is it to say "Postgresquel", really? Don't tell me you've been
> > saying "Postgres cue ell".....;-)
>
> I have! I don't see that there is really any difference between saying
> "postgresequel" and "postgres-cue-ell". The syllables are just switched.
> (kind of) However, perhaps the inventors of this term could offer their
> insight into their intended pronounciation.
Not post-gre'-se-quel -- post-gres'-quel. One less syllable. At least,
that's how I've been saying it. But, then again, when referring to
MySQL I don't say my-s-q-l; I say my'-squel.
Oh well...
Lamar
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* Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages)
1999-08-09 17:47 Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>
1999-08-09 19:16 ` Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Peter Eisentraut <peter@pathwaynet.com>
@ 1999-08-09 19:51 ` J. Michael Roberts <mirobert@cs.indiana.edu>
1999-08-09 20:32 ` Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Ross J. Reedstrom <reedstrm@wallace.ece.rice.edu>
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From: J. Michael Roberts @ 1999-08-09 19:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Eisentraut <peter@pathwaynet.com>; +Cc: Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>; Postgres Hackers List <hackers@postgreSQL.org>
The only thing I hate about PostgreSQL is that it's hard to type with all
that mixed case. I confess that I've always pronounced it "postgres"
anyway, so there!
The point of a name is to be distinctive and somewhat descriptive.
Postgres suffices to set the product off from other database systems.
There's no real need for the SQL to be in the name. Even Microsoft, in
their eternal marketing battle, doesn't make a point of writing AccesSQL.
My two bits, and your mileage may vary.
On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Lamar Owen wrote:
>
> > Thomas Lockhart wrote:
> > > I have chosen to use "Postgres" within the docs, as a shorter (and
> > > pronouncable ;) form of our product. "PostgreSQL" appears in all
> >
> > How hard is it to say "Postgresquel", really? Don't tell me you've been
> > saying "Postgres cue ell".....;-)
>
> I have! I don't see that there is really any difference between saying
> "postgresequel" and "postgres-cue-ell". The syllables are just switched.
> (kind of) However, perhaps the inventors of this term could offer their
> insight into their intended pronounciation.
>
> --
> Peter Eisentraut
> PathWay Computing, Inc.
>
>
>
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* Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages)
1999-08-09 17:47 Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>
1999-08-09 19:16 ` Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Peter Eisentraut <peter@pathwaynet.com>
1999-08-09 19:51 ` Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) J. Michael Roberts <mirobert@cs.indiana.edu>
@ 1999-08-09 20:32 ` Ross J. Reedstrom <reedstrm@wallace.ece.rice.edu>
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From: Ross J. Reedstrom @ 1999-08-09 20:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: hackers@postgreSQL.org
On Mon, Aug 09, 1999 at 02:51:02PM -0500, J. Michael Roberts wrote:
> The only thing I hate about PostgreSQL is that it's hard to type with all
> that mixed case. I confess that I've always pronounced it "postgres"
> anyway, so there!
>
> The point of a name is to be distinctive and somewhat descriptive.
> Postgres suffices to set the product off from other database systems.
> There's no real need for the SQL to be in the name. Even Microsoft, in
> their eternal marketing battle, doesn't make a point of writing AccesSQL.
>
Well, that might be because MS-Access... isn't! Their SQL server product,
however is called,...
SQL Server!
Anyone else get cheesed off how MS seems to always try to co-opt generic
words and turn them into ProductNames(tm)? Word? Access? SQL? In my own
little rebellion, I make a point of prefixing MS- whenever I speak or
write about their products.
Ross
--
Ross J. Reedstrom, Ph.D., <reedstrm@rice.edu>
NSBRI Research Scientist/Programmer
Computer and Information Technology Institute
Rice University, 6100 S. Main St., Houston, TX 77005
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* Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages)
1999-08-09 17:47 Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>
1999-08-09 19:16 ` Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Peter Eisentraut <peter@pathwaynet.com>
@ 1999-08-10 02:16 ` Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
1999-08-10 03:19 ` Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) lamar.owen@wgcr.org
1999-08-10 12:05 ` Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Thomas Good <tomg@nrnet.org>
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From: Thomas Lockhart @ 1999-08-10 02:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Eisentraut <peter@pathwaynet.com>; +Cc: Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>; José Soares <jose@sferacarta.com>; Postgres Hackers List <hackers@postgreSQL.org>
> > > I have chosen to use "Postgres" within the docs, as a shorter (and
> > > pronouncable ;) form of our product. "PostgreSQL" appears in all
> > How hard is it to say "Postgresquel", really? Don't tell me you've been
> > saying "Postgres cue ell".....;-)
I'll bet that even the coiners of the term have some differences in
their pronunciation. For the record, I use "Postgres" usually, and
"Postgres-cue-ell" when forced...
- Thomas
Since we cap the "S", however you pronounce "SQL" should probably be
how you do the end of "PostgreSQL". Lamar, are you a "ess-quel"
person? That may be a regional dialect. Don't even get me started on
that: it took me years to get over my strong inclination to use
"hacker" to refer to a bad, clueless programmer...
--
Thomas Lockhart lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu
South Pasadena, California
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* Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages)
1999-08-09 17:47 Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>
1999-08-09 19:16 ` Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Peter Eisentraut <peter@pathwaynet.com>
1999-08-10 02:16 ` Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
@ 1999-08-10 03:19 ` lamar.owen@wgcr.org
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From: lamar.owen@wgcr.org @ 1999-08-10 03:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>; +Cc: Postgres Hackers List <hackers@postgresql.org>
Thomas Lockhart wrote:
>
> I'll bet that even the coiners of the term have some differences in
> their pronunciation. For the record, I use "Postgres" usually, and
> "Postgres-cue-ell" when forced...
> Since we cap the "S", however you pronounce "SQL" should probably be
> how you do the end of "PostgreSQL". Lamar, are you a "ess-quel"
> person? That may be a regional dialect.
Only in postgressive context (ouch...)
I have been known to say 'squel' (as opposed to ess-quel....). If I
could just inflect my Southern Drawl in text.... And I have said ess cue
ell (not very often...)... Oh well. Minor points. I think it goes back
to my Z80 days, where I'd pronounce the machine code -- it sounds real
strange to say "sidbateotwo" to mean CD B8 02 (CALL x'02B8' in Z80
assembler), but I have actually done that. Just a little game that a
friend and I would play.
Incidentally, radically changing the subject, I have done some tests on
the RPM-packaged perl client, with great success. I am also
experimenting with my new (3lo) RPM's, which are the first try to
package the regression tests. Now to see if they run ;-/ As soon as
the RedHat 5.2 machine (a creaky 486-100 w/16MB) finishes a good build,
I'll post. Although, I am hitting snags -- the regression tests have
some strange requirements -- ie, the resulting regress.so in the package
is built to require /usr/local/bin/perl, and /usr/local/bin/python.....
Oh well; I'll slog through it.
Now to learn enough python to be dangerous...
Lamar
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* Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages)
1999-08-09 17:47 Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>
1999-08-09 19:16 ` Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Peter Eisentraut <peter@pathwaynet.com>
1999-08-10 02:16 ` Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
@ 1999-08-10 12:05 ` Thomas Good <tomg@nrnet.org>
1999-08-10 13:14 ` Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
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From: Thomas Good @ 1999-08-10 12:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>; +Cc: Peter Eisentraut <peter@pathwaynet.com>; Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>; José Soares <jose@sferacarta.com>; Postgres Hackers List <hackers@postgresql.org>
On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Thomas Lockhart wrote:
> > > > I have chosen to use "Postgres" within the docs, as a shorter (and
> > > > pronouncable ;) form of our product. "PostgreSQL" appears in all
> > > How hard is it to say "Postgresquel", really? Don't tell me you've been
> > > saying "Postgres cue ell".....;-)
>
> I'll bet that even the coiners of the term have some differences in
> their pronunciation. For the record, I use "Postgres" usually, and
> "Postgres-cue-ell" when forced...
>
> - Thomas
>
> Since we cap the "S", however you pronounce "SQL" should probably be
> how you do the end of "PostgreSQL". Lamar, are you a "ess-quel"
> person? That may be a regional dialect. Don't even get me started on
> that: it took me years to get over my strong inclination to use
> "hacker" to refer to a bad, clueless programmer...
And how do you say Linux, Thomas? I have a friend in Regina, Saskatchewan
(that's ra-Jine-ah, not ra-geen-ah) who says LINE-ex...I wince every time
I hear it. In fact, sometimes, if I'm less than fully caffeinated it
doesn't even register that he's made a reference to Linn-Ucks...
(Usually I truncate it to Lin-icks or simply: Slackware ;-)
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* Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages)
1999-08-09 17:47 Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>
1999-08-09 19:16 ` Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Peter Eisentraut <peter@pathwaynet.com>
1999-08-10 02:16 ` Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
1999-08-10 12:05 ` Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Thomas Good <tomg@nrnet.org>
@ 1999-08-10 13:14 ` Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
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From: Thomas Lockhart @ 1999-08-10 13:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thomas Good <tomg@nrnet.org>; +Cc: Peter Eisentraut <peter@pathwaynet.com>; Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>; José Soares <jose@sferacarta.com>; Postgres Hackers List <hackers@postgresql.org>
> And how do you say Linux, Thomas? I have a friend in Regina, Saskatchewan
> (that's ra-Jine-ah, not ra-geen-ah) who says LINE-ex...I wince every time
> I hear it. In fact, sometimes, if I'm less than fully caffeinated it
> doesn't even register that he's made a reference to Linn-Ucks...
> (Usually I truncate it to Lin-icks or simply: Slackware ;-)
*rolf* Actually, that's a problem! When I first started with
linn-ucks, the person who got me going pronounced it line-ex. And
later, when I asked, she said that she intentionally mispronounced it
so she could trace the lineage of the person; that is, so she could
tell if they had learned about it from someone that she knew. Pretty
dastardly... ;)
But I try to pronounce it in Finnish rather than Texan nowadays...
- Thomas
--
Thomas Lockhart lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu
South Pasadena, California
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* Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages)
1999-08-09 17:47 Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>
@ 1999-08-16 02:23 ` The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
1999-08-18 20:10 ` Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>
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From: The Hermit Hacker @ 1999-08-16 02:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>; +Cc: Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>; Josi Soares <jose@sferacarta.com>; Postgres Hackers List <hackers@postgreSQL.org>
On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Lamar Owen wrote:
> Thomas Lockhart wrote:
> > I have chosen to use "Postgres" within the docs, as a shorter (and
> > pronouncable ;) form of our product. "PostgreSQL" appears in all
>
> How hard is it to say "Postgresquel", really? Don't tell me you've been
> saying "Postgres cue ell".....;-)
Ummm, your second way is the correct pronounciation :)
Post-gres-Q-L :)
Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy
Systems Administrator @ hub.org
primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org
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* Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages)
1999-08-09 17:47 Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>
1999-08-16 02:23 ` Re: Pronunciation of "PostgreSQL" (was: Re: [HACKERS] New man pages) The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
@ 1999-08-18 20:10 ` Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>
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From: Lamar Owen @ 1999-08-18 20:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>; +Cc: Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>; Josi Soares <jose@sferacarta.com>; Postgres Hackers List <hackers@postgreSQL.org>
The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> > How hard is it to say "Postgresquel", really? Don't tell me you've been
> > saying "Postgres cue ell".....;-)
>
> Ummm, your second way is the correct pronounciation :)
>
> Post-gres-Q-L :)
Correct or not, it doesn't quite flow off the tongue... Oh well. There
are more important issues than pronunciation (such as rpm -Uvh for the
rpm's...), but a little levity never exacerberated any problems....
(laughter is the best medicine!). Maybe we need you to record the
canonical pronunciation (I'll even encode to RealAudio -- and will
donate the RealServer bandwidth!), like Linus did for linux.
(lee-nooks...).
Cheers....
Lamar Owen
WGCR Internet Radio
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