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* Re: interactive pgsql book
@ 2000-05-24 15:17 Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
2000-05-24 16:02 ` Re: [HACKERS] Re: interactive pgsql book Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
2000-05-24 17:03 ` Re: [HACKERS] Re: interactive pgsql book Tom Ivar Helbekkmo <tih@kpnQwest.no>
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From: Bruce Momjian @ 2000-05-24 15:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Poul L. Christiansen <plc@faroenet.fo>; +Cc: PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>; PostgreSQL-documentation <docs@postgresql.org>
That is quite interesting. Let me CC this over to the hackers/docs
lists to see if we want to do this for our main docs.
As for my book, I want those messages sent to me so I can fix them or
add information to the book. I think maybe we want the same thing for
the manuals. We want to get suggestions so we can compile them into the
manuals and add to them, rather than having comments, but I am
interested to hear what others say.
> Hi
>
> First: I'm looking forward to buying the PostreSQL book when it's
> published.
>
> Have you thought about making the book interactive, so other people can
> contribute/discuss to the book.
> It can be made with PHP4 and PostreSQL 7 - of course :-)
>
> You could possibly remove irrelevant/annoying postings.
>
> The book would be better, because you'd get more feedback.
>
> Look at this as an example:
> http://www.php.net/manual/ref.pgsql.php
>
> What do you think?
>
> I'm not a PHP programmer, but I've just managed to make a query to
> PostgreSQL using PHP :-)
> On the other hand, I'm a experienced Cold Fusion programmer, so it will
> be easy to learn PHP.
>
> I wouldn't mind using some of my spare time to implement this neat
> function.
>
> Poul L. Christiansen
>
>
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* Re: [HACKERS] Re: interactive pgsql book
2000-05-24 15:17 Re: interactive pgsql book Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
@ 2000-05-24 16:02 ` Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
2000-05-24 16:20 ` Re: [HACKERS] Re: interactive pgsql book Benjamin Adida <ben@mit.edu>
2000-05-24 16:46 ` Re: [HACKERS] Re: interactive pgsql book Jeff Hoffmann <jeff@propertykey.com>
1 sibling, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Vince Vielhaber @ 2000-05-24 16:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>; +Cc: Poul L. Christiansen <plc@faroenet.fo>; PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>; PostgreSQL-documentation <docs@postgresql.org>
On Wed, 24 May 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> That is quite interesting. Let me CC this over to the hackers/docs
> lists to see if we want to do this for our main docs.
>
> As for my book, I want those messages sent to me so I can fix them or
> add information to the book. I think maybe we want the same thing for
> the manuals. We want to get suggestions so we can compile them into the
> manuals and add to them, rather than having comments, but I am
> interested to hear what others say.
By "interactive" I ass/u/me Poul is referring to PHP's annotated manual.
I've found that to save me HOURS due to oddball little quirks that someone
else discovered first and noted in the annotated docs.
I'd not only support this, if it's wanted I'll make sure it's implemented.
Vince.
>
> > Hi
> >
> > First: I'm looking forward to buying the PostreSQL book when it's
> > published.
> >
> > Have you thought about making the book interactive, so other people can
> > contribute/discuss to the book.
> > It can be made with PHP4 and PostreSQL 7 - of course :-)
> >
> > You could possibly remove irrelevant/annoying postings.
> >
> > The book would be better, because you'd get more feedback.
> >
> > Look at this as an example:
> > http://www.php.net/manual/ref.pgsql.php
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > I'm not a PHP programmer, but I've just managed to make a query to
> > PostgreSQL using PHP :-)
> > On the other hand, I'm a experienced Cold Fusion programmer, so it will
> > be easy to learn PHP.
> >
> > I wouldn't mind using some of my spare time to implement this neat
> > function.
> >
> > Poul L. Christiansen
> >
> >
>
>
>
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* Re: [HACKERS] Re: interactive pgsql book
2000-05-24 15:17 Re: interactive pgsql book Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
2000-05-24 16:02 ` Re: [HACKERS] Re: interactive pgsql book Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
@ 2000-05-24 16:20 ` Benjamin Adida <ben@mit.edu>
2000-05-24 15:34 ` Re: [HACKERS] Re: interactive pgsql book Poul L. Christiansen <plc@faroenet.fo>
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Benjamin Adida @ 2000-05-24 16:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>; Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>; +Cc: Poul L. Christiansen <plc@faroenet.fo>; PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>; PostgreSQL-documentation <docs@postgresql.org>
on 5/24/00 12:02 PM, Vince Vielhaber at vev@michvhf.com wrote:
> On Wed, 24 May 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
>> That is quite interesting. Let me CC this over to the hackers/docs
>> lists to see if we want to do this for our main docs.
>>
>> As for my book, I want those messages sent to me so I can fix them or
>> add information to the book. I think maybe we want the same thing for
>> the manuals. We want to get suggestions so we can compile them into the
>> manuals and add to them, rather than having comments, but I am
>> interested to hear what others say.
>
> By "interactive" I ass/u/me Poul is referring to PHP's annotated manual.
> I've found that to save me HOURS due to oddball little quirks that someone
> else discovered first and noted in the annotated docs.
>
> I'd not only support this, if it's wanted I'll make sure it's implemented.
I'm not trying to start any kind of war, but since OpenACS is being
considered for community management already, it can automatically set up
HTML file annotation with no extra effort. All you do is add the HTML files
to the doc directory and sync up with the database (one click), and you've
got user-contributed annotations (with moderation if you so desire).
This is similar to Philip Greenspun's photo.net docs.
-Ben
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* Re: [HACKERS] Re: interactive pgsql book
2000-05-24 15:17 Re: interactive pgsql book Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
2000-05-24 16:02 ` Re: [HACKERS] Re: interactive pgsql book Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
2000-05-24 16:20 ` Re: [HACKERS] Re: interactive pgsql book Benjamin Adida <ben@mit.edu>
@ 2000-05-24 15:34 ` Poul L. Christiansen <plc@faroenet.fo>
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Poul L. Christiansen @ 2000-05-24 15:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Benjamin Adida <ben@mit.edu>; +Cc: Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>; Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>; PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>; PostgreSQL-documentation <docs@postgresql.org>
Benjamin Adida wrote:
> on 5/24/00 12:02 PM, Vince Vielhaber at vev@michvhf.com wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 24 May 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >
> >> That is quite interesting. Let me CC this over to the hackers/docs
> >> lists to see if we want to do this for our main docs.
> >>
> >> As for my book, I want those messages sent to me so I can fix them or
> >> add information to the book. I think maybe we want the same thing for
> >> the manuals. We want to get suggestions so we can compile them into the
> >> manuals and add to them, rather than having comments, but I am
> >> interested to hear what others say.
> >
> > By "interactive" I ass/u/me Poul is referring to PHP's annotated manual.
> > I've found that to save me HOURS due to oddball little quirks that someone
> > else discovered first and noted in the annotated docs.
> >
> > I'd not only support this, if it's wanted I'll make sure it's implemented.
>
> I'm not trying to start any kind of war, but since OpenACS is being
> considered for community management already, it can automatically set up
> HTML file annotation with no extra effort. All you do is add the HTML files
> to the doc directory and sync up with the database (one click), and you've
> got user-contributed annotations (with moderation if you so desire).
>
> This is similar to Philip Greenspun's photo.net docs.
>
> -Ben
If OpenACS has the features that I've mentioned, then I see no need to re-invent
the wheel.
When will we be able to use OpenACS?
- Poul L. Christiansen
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* Re: [HACKERS] Re: interactive pgsql book
2000-05-24 15:17 Re: interactive pgsql book Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
2000-05-24 16:02 ` Re: [HACKERS] Re: interactive pgsql book Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
@ 2000-05-24 16:46 ` Jeff Hoffmann <jeff@propertykey.com>
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jeff Hoffmann @ 2000-05-24 16:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ; +Cc: PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>; PostgreSQL-documentation <docs@postgresql.org>
Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> By "interactive" I ass/u/me Poul is referring to PHP's annotated manual.
> I've found that to save me HOURS due to oddball little quirks that someone
> else discovered first and noted in the annotated docs.
i'd have to agree 100% with this. i use php and i've had much the same
experience. as a matter of fact, i think i commented to tom lockhart
about this a long time ago when i was having some problem understanding
how setting up alternate database locations worked. it fills a
different role than a FAQ & it's a lot easier than searching mailing
lists (even when the list search is working). it seems like there are a
lot of quirks that are non-intuitive to a lot of users (e.g., recently i
was having trouble getting an index to be used on a query and realized
that i needed to add an explicit typecast on the query) that aren't
covered anywhere, maybe even not in the mailing lists.
jeff
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* Re: [HACKERS] Re: interactive pgsql book
2000-05-24 15:17 Re: interactive pgsql book Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
@ 2000-05-24 17:03 ` Tom Ivar Helbekkmo <tih@kpnQwest.no>
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo @ 2000-05-24 17:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>; +Cc: Poul L. Christiansen <plc@faroenet.fo>; PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>; PostgreSQL-documentation <docs@postgresql.org>
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
> > Have you thought about making the book interactive, so other people can
> > contribute/discuss to the book.
> > It can be made with PHP4 and PostreSQL 7 - of course :-)
...and with the OpenACS version of the ArsDigita Community System and
PostgreSQL -- of course! :-) See <http://www.openacs.org/;.
-tih
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