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To: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
Cc: Tom Lane <[email protected]>
Cc: pgsql-docs <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: remove undocumented assign syntax from plpgsql doc
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 06:10:24 +0100
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2014/1/13 Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 07:00:09AM +0100, Pavel Stehule wrote:
> > Comment updated. Patch attached.
> >
> >
> >
> > Still I am missing message about preferred syntax (or we should to
> enhance GET
> > DIAGNOSTICS doc about proprietary syntax).
> >
> > PL/pgSQL, PL/SQL is mix of two languages: ADA and SQL - and their
> designers
> > decided so embedded SQL statements will be placed in native SQL syntax
> (and ADA
> > in simplified ADA syntax)
> >
> > We have to find a agreement what we will prefer for PL/pgSQL:
> >
> > The assign statement is "ADA" statement - ":=" is preferred
> >
> > The GET DIAGNOSTICS is "SQL" statement - "=" is preferred
> >
> > A newer SQL/PSM was designed differently - without this dichotomy - A
> > assignment is emphased by syntax SET varname = value
> >
> > A proper syntax is good information what is coming from - and It is good
> mental
> > helper to understand a philosophy of stored procedures (that shares
> concepts
> > with PL/SQL). Next argument is similarity with PL/SQL and SQL PL. This
> > statement (GET DIAGNOSTICS) is supported on both environments and only
> "=" is
> > allowed there.
>
> I find the rules above so complex that I don't see how we can recommend
> a best syntax. What I did in the patch I just posted was to put the
> preferred operator first, but I don't see why we want to get into these
> details in the docs.
>
just a note about preferred variant should be ok. Using ':=' in GET
DIAGNOSTICS statement is just bad idea.
Pavel
>
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> + Everyone has their own god. +
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