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From: Vik Fearing <vik.fearing@2ndquadrant.com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Cc: Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Cc: nawaz@fast.au.fujitsu.com
Cc: pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org
Subject: Re: typo
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 15:29:25 +0100
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On 26/11/2018 15:14, Tom Lane wrote:
> Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> writes:
>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 08:17:06AM +0100, Vik Fearing wrote:
>>> On 26/11/2018 08:03, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>>>> Are you sure that's right? To me the original wording of that sentence
>>>> seems to convey the message properly, and the update done does not?
> 
>>> Yeah, I just found this on the committers list and I disagree with the
>>> change as well.
> 
>> [... checking around ...]
>> Hm.  I have read the sentence and the surroundings a couple of times
>> before doing anything, and using an adverb looked clearer than the
>> adjective.  Is an adjective more appropriate than an adverb here because
>> it insists more on the fact that each row is involved?  Just trying to
>> grab the difference.
> 
> I think that text is mine originally, and it was not a typo.  The meaning
> of "table rows proper", in this case, is basically "table rows themelves".
> The first dictionary I looked at gives this example:
> 
> PROPER
> Adjective [ chiefly British ]
>   ... [ postpositive ] Strictly so called; in its true form.
>   "some of the dos and don'ts in espionage proper"
> 
> But I can see that a lot of people might not be familiar with that usage,
> so I've got no objections to rewriting it more clearly --- any
> suggestions?

How about

  A table that has columns with potentially large entries will have an
  associated TOAST table, which is used for out-of-line storage of field
- values that are too large to keep in the table rows proper.
+ values that are too large to keep in the main table storage.

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Vik Fearing                                          +33 6 46 75 15 36
http://2ndQuadrant.fr     PostgreSQL : Expertise, Formation et Support




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