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Re: Index corruption issue after migration from RHEL 7 to RHEL 9 (PostgreSQL 11 streaming replication) 3+ messages / 3 participants [nested] [flat]
* Re: Index corruption issue after migration from RHEL 7 to RHEL 9 (PostgreSQL 11 streaming replication) @ 2025-10-25 01:53 Tom Lane <[email protected]> 2025-10-25 02:19 ` Re: Index corruption issue after migration from RHEL 7 to RHEL 9 (PostgreSQL 11 streaming replication) David Rowley <[email protected]> 2025-10-25 05:05 ` Re: Index corruption issue after migration from RHEL 7 to RHEL 9 (PostgreSQL 11 streaming replication) Adrian Klaver <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 3+ messages in thread From: Tom Lane @ 2025-10-25 01:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Rowley <[email protected]>; +Cc: Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>; Ron Johnson <[email protected]>; pgsql-generallists.postgresql.org <[email protected]> David Rowley <[email protected]> writes: > On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 at 13:40, Adrian Klaver <[email protected]> wrote: >> 1) From previous posts to this list folks have mentioned their >> organizations prohibit touching anything less then a GA or maybe a late >> RC. That comes from on high and I doubt the folks issuing the orders are >> on this list. > That seems bizarre to me. If they want new releases of PostgreSQL to > be as stable as possible as early as possible, then beta and RC are > much better times to test than .0 is. I think the folks issuing that sort of order believe that testing is Somebody Else's Problem. The folly of that approach is pretty evident to those of us toiling in the software trenches, but maybe not so much from the C-suite. regards, tom lane ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 3+ messages in thread
* Re: Index corruption issue after migration from RHEL 7 to RHEL 9 (PostgreSQL 11 streaming replication) 2025-10-25 01:53 Re: Index corruption issue after migration from RHEL 7 to RHEL 9 (PostgreSQL 11 streaming replication) Tom Lane <[email protected]> @ 2025-10-25 02:19 ` David Rowley <[email protected]> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread From: David Rowley @ 2025-10-25 02:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tom Lane <[email protected]>; +Cc: Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>; Ron Johnson <[email protected]>; pgsql-generallists.postgresql.org <[email protected]> On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 at 14:53, Tom Lane <[email protected]> wrote: > > David Rowley <[email protected]> writes: > > On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 at 13:40, Adrian Klaver <[email protected]> wrote: > >> 1) From previous posts to this list folks have mentioned their > >> organizations prohibit touching anything less then a GA or maybe a late > >> RC. That comes from on high and I doubt the folks issuing the orders are > >> on this list. > > > That seems bizarre to me. If they want new releases of PostgreSQL to > > be as stable as possible as early as possible, then beta and RC are > > much better times to test than .0 is. > > I think the folks issuing that sort of order believe that testing is > Somebody Else's Problem. The folly of that approach is pretty evident > to those of us toiling in the software trenches, but maybe not so much > from the C-suite. Yeah, I expect that'll be true all too often. However, it doesn't mean that people around here can't attempt to propagate an education to them on why they're wrong. There certainly is much less hope if they only receive confirmation. David ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 3+ messages in thread
* Re: Index corruption issue after migration from RHEL 7 to RHEL 9 (PostgreSQL 11 streaming replication) 2025-10-25 01:53 Re: Index corruption issue after migration from RHEL 7 to RHEL 9 (PostgreSQL 11 streaming replication) Tom Lane <[email protected]> @ 2025-10-25 05:05 ` Adrian Klaver <[email protected]> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread From: Adrian Klaver @ 2025-10-25 05:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tom Lane <[email protected]>; David Rowley <[email protected]>; +Cc: Ron Johnson <[email protected]>; pgsql-generallists.postgresql.org <[email protected]> On 10/24/25 18:53, Tom Lane wrote: > David Rowley <[email protected]> writes: >> On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 at 13:40, Adrian Klaver <[email protected]> wrote: >>> 1) From previous posts to this list folks have mentioned their >>> organizations prohibit touching anything less then a GA or maybe a late >>> RC. That comes from on high and I doubt the folks issuing the orders are >>> on this list. > >> That seems bizarre to me. If they want new releases of PostgreSQL to >> be as stable as possible as early as possible, then beta and RC are >> much better times to test than .0 is. > > I think the folks issuing that sort of order believe that testing is > Somebody Else's Problem. The folly of that approach is pretty evident > to those of us toiling in the software trenches, but maybe not so much > from the C-suite. Yes and no. Yes someone needs to test new software, no that is not for everyone. The presence and uptake of LTS software indicates that being on the edge of development is something folks would like to avoid. I know as I use LTS versions of Ubuntu and Django for that very reason, I want to get work done without worry about having to pick up 'shiny bits and pieces'. That being said, it allows me the time to kick the tires on new software, of current interest Polars and Duckdb. It comes down to time available and what you want to spend that time on. That could very well mean making testing 'Somebody Else's Problem', in the way that Postgresql Core has made packaging some else's problem: https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/[email protected] " The core project wouldn't document that, because we just ship source code not RPMs. There might be a README in the core postgresql RPM package telling you what's what. " > > regards, tom lane -- Adrian Klaver [email protected] ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 3+ messages in thread
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