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help / color / mirror / Atom feedFrom: Antonin Houska <ah@cybertec.at>
To: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Cc: Srinath Reddy Sadipiralla <srinath2133@gmail.com>
Cc: Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres@gmail.com>
Cc: Mihail Nikalayeu <mihailnikalayeu@gmail.com>
Cc: Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org>
Cc: Robert Treat <rob@xzilla.net>
Subject: Re: Adding REPACK [concurrently]
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2026 11:20:03 +0100
Message-ID: <12105.1774261203@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202603200752.zigubezzfcql@alvherre.pgsql>
References: <202603200752.zigubezzfcql@alvherre.pgsql>
Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> wrote:
> On 2026-Mar-19, Antonin Houska wrote:
>
> > Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> wrote:
> >
> > > So here's v43. Here, I've changed the CONCURRENTLY implementation to go
> > > through table AM. This necessitated changing it to use tuples in slots
> > > instead of HeapTuple. This is good because we can avoid repeated tuple
> > > form/deform, which could get pretty expensive. Antonin's 0004 patch
> > > here looks suspicious here though, because it deforms the tuple and
> > > forms it again, which sounds unnecessary now.
> >
> > I suppose you mean
> > v42-0004-Serialize-decoded-tuples-without-flattening.patch. This deforms the
> > tuple to get the external attributes and to write them to file. The tuple the
> > logical worker received from reorderbuffer.c cannot be passed to the backend
> > executing REPACK because it may contain "external indirect" attributes,
> > i.e. pointers to the worker's memory.
>
> No, that patch has been absorbed in what is now v43-0003. I meant
> v43-0004 "Use BulkInsertState when copying data to the new heap.",
> that's why I said "patch 0004 here". In this patch, we have
> reform_tuple which deforms the tuple, sets to NULL any attribute that's
> marked dropped, and then forms a new one. This is wasteful and should
> probably be done elsewhere, while the tuple is still in slot
> representation. In fact, I suspect it may not be necessary at all
> anymore.
The idea to "reform" the tuple comes from VACUUM FULL / CLUSTER. I agree the
"deform" and "form" steps are no longer needed when we use tuple slots.
--
Antonin Houska
Web: https://www.cybertec-postgresql.com
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